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Post by fish on Mar 23, 2014 6:55:10 GMT 5
 The Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis), also known as the Komodo monitor, is the largest living species of lizard, growing to a maximum length of 3 metres (10 ft). In the wild, an adult Komodo dragon usually weighs around 70 kg (150 lb), although captive specimens often weigh more. vs  Theropithecus oswaldi is an extinct, giant relative of the modern day gelada, T. gelada. Details of their teeth indicate that the two likely don’t have an ancestor-descendent relationship; they shared a separate common ancestor from 2 to 3 million years ago. T. oswaldi is in particularly notable for its enormous size, topping out at around 100 kg, the same as a small gorilla. |
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Post by Reticulatus on Mar 23, 2014 7:06:01 GMT 5
This is an unfortunate match up for the monkey, this species would have a better chance against the varanid than most others(including us) but I would still put the odds heavily in favor of the reptile 85%.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Mar 23, 2014 7:29:58 GMT 5
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 24, 2014 3:25:43 GMT 5
The komodo would win on most occasions. I imagine that more often than not, the monkey would make a fatal mistake in this match-up, allowing himself to be bit by the lizard.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 0:15:10 GMT 5
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Post by fish on Apr 1, 2014 8:11:43 GMT 5
Could the shorter skull and canines of T. oswaldi indicate a higher bite force and less reliance on slashing technique? Considering modern baboons have rather proportionately large canines anyways, I fail to see why short canines in comparison to them equals that its much more inferior. That said I tend to also think that the baboon may approach the komodo dragon wrong and get bitten, and that would be disastrous. The lizards bite can be effective in any area it gets a hold of, while that baboon probably needs to land a bite to the skull or neck to take out the lizard quickly, and I'm not sure it would be able to do so without getting struck first. Theropithecus is also more herbivorous than other baboons, but still modern geladas can be very aggressive, so cant really say that its a major disadvantage.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Nov 23, 2016 2:13:18 GMT 5
The lizard should take this more often than not.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Nov 23, 2016 5:21:59 GMT 5
Even if it did have the canines of modern baboons that doesn't mean it would fair any better, baboons do more slashing than actual biting with those teeth and the ora not only has scales but osteoderms, many adult dragons also have scars from healed over boar tusk wounds, so even the wounds it would be able to inflict would likely not be enough to seriously threaten the lizards life.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 9:52:14 GMT 5
No contest, Komodo easily wins.
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Post by creature386 on Oct 31, 2017 15:16:03 GMT 5
I like how the poll simply says "lizard" and "monkey". The Komodo dragon wins, as others have convincingly argued for.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Oct 31, 2017 20:15:24 GMT 5
Could the shorter skull and canines of T. oswaldi indicate a higher bite force and less reliance on slashing technique? Considering modern baboons have rather proportionately large canines anyways, I fail to see why short canines in comparison to them equals that its much more inferior. Even if so, how much harder would you expect T. oswaldi to bite? Surely you wouldn't expect by THAT much? I'd say so, and if that's the case, then I think it's safe to say that the dentition advantage typical of other cercopithecines trumps any further specialization in bite force T. oswaldi may have had; and judging from comparison of their teeth, I'd say by a rather marked margin. I only now came up with a rebuttal to this comment, but I just felt like responding to it in the simplest way for me. I know fish is long gone. Edit: on Carnivora I have read speculations regarding whether or not the short canines of T. oswaldi belong to female individuals (male baboons have much longer canines than their female counterparts). As it turns out, while there is evidence of sexual dimorphism in the canines of T. oswaldi, the canine crowns of the males were still proportionately very short in comparison to modern baboons and geladas. See Fig. IV.76a & b, as well as Fig. IV.76 in Jablonski et al. (2008) for pictures of the canines in males. The canines of females were even shorter than this (see Fig. IV.84a). |
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Post by An Goldish Jade on Nov 3, 2017 11:48:14 GMT 5
the Komodo Dragon would kill this monkey
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 12, 2019 21:55:44 GMT 5
Konodo dragon wins easily, it's far too well armed
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