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Post by LeopJag on May 26, 2014 2:06:01 GMT 5
As a dog lover - people who tout anti-pitbull crap - saying they should be banned worldwide or wiped off the face of the world,, piss me off to no end. they are ignorant on the subject be it willfully or otherwise...
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 4:22:17 GMT 5
It's even worse when people want to wipe a species off the face of the world and have very poor reasoning for that matter.
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Jun 1, 2014 8:59:48 GMT 5
When people think they are reptile experts just because they can care for a couple of lizards. Trust me, I know what it is like dealing with people like that
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Jun 1, 2014 9:10:24 GMT 5
This is one of the many reasons why I despise the JW forums. A couple months ago I posted some of my theories about spinosaurus (with some factual fossil related stuff as well), and everyone literally shit their pants because they both disagreed with some of the factual parts (such as it having a more slender snout than most large predatory theropods), and because they disregarded everything I said as an OPINION (yes, you read that right) and started flaming me just because I didn't state in my posts that most of it was my theory (I forgot to). Oh yea, and then I think I even remember someone claiming that my theories were offensive You can find something similar to what I posted there at Animalia Enthusiasts under the zoological debate and discussion subforum (unsure if I should post it here or not. I just feel that my obsession with spinosaurus might be annoying some people)
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Post by guategojira on Jun 1, 2014 9:24:16 GMT 5
As a dog lover - people who tout anti-pitbull crap - saying they should be banned worldwide or wiped off the face of the world,, piss me off to no end. they are ignorant on the subject be it willfully or otherwise... Sorry dude, but pitbulls ARE dangerous. In fact, any dog is dangerous if is not balanced in its behavior, but the "fighting" dogs are on a different level. And you most accept the fact that this type of dogs were specifically "created" to fight, so they are "bad" since the beginning, its own conception is not based in anything good, just to create violence, like the poor Spanish fighting bulls. However, IF you are a good owner, then your dog will be also good, and I think this is your case. I have saw HUGE rottweilers that are very docile and reliable.
Sadly, the problem is that most of the owners of these dogs (and many other types) breed them just to put fear to the people around them and for fights. Are dogs guilty? No, but we, the humans, are responsible for its creation, after all, these are not natural animals, they were not created by the natural selection and are not the product of millions of years of evolution. I think that your reaction is too exaggerated, these dogs are not endangered like the pure blood wolves or dholes, which had been destroyed (literally) by humans, NO, this are creatures create only to grow the whim of man, a perfect reflection of our own vanity, trying to control the nature. Personally, I prefer a single pure blood dhole in nature that 1,000 pitbulls. Nature is first, not human vanity.
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Post by LeopJag on Jun 1, 2014 13:43:37 GMT 5
As a dog lover - people who tout anti-pitbull crap - saying they should be banned worldwide or wiped off the face of the world,, piss me off to no end. they are ignorant on the subject be it willfully or otherwise... Sorry dude, but pitbulls ARE dangerous. In fact, any dog is dangerous if is not balanced in its behavior, but the "fighting" dogs are on a different level. As crazy as it may sound, to me it is as bad as racism (lets face it, the antipitbull sentiment shares many parallels with it) and any other unjust form of human discrimination. he latest scientific research has shown that (in spite of its historical use) they are no more inherently aggressive than any other breed, and dare i say that when properly raised, bred and socialized they are as safe around people as any well-bred/raised labrador, etc.. physically (capacity to inflict damage) they are more dangerous than a labrador, but not when it's properly minded specimen. i can think of breeds (namely the rottweiler, mastiff and livestock guardian types and wolf hybrids) that are even more capable of inflicting serious harm to humans in a shorter amount of time, but neither of them are as feared these days... furthermore, successfully implemented breed specific laws against pitbulls have systematically failed in reducing numbers of serious and fatal attacks by dogs on people - as statistics and shown. for the hell of it, i thought i would mention that toy breed types and crosses have left something of a bad impression on me - more than any other kind of dog yet i don't hate them - i acknowledge that that is mostly because of inadequate ownership and bad breeding (puppy mills and backyard breeders),, and certainly don't believe they should be banned or extinguished either. Before dog fighting, centuries ago they were originally used as general purpose farm dogs and also for large game hunting....don't know about the Spanish fighting bull but time and again pitbulls have shown that they are very versatile animals - can be bred and used to fulfill many purposes other than dog fighting....besides devoted and loving family dogs they do exceedingly well in search and rescue, therapy dogs and whatever other k9 job in a positive light - they have great potential as guide dogs but because of legal issues in certain parts of the world and the mass hysteria/prejudice people have against them, they are rarely if ever used as such... in the southern us they are the dog of choice among many for the necessary evil of feral hog hunting. It's such a shame that it is also the breed of choice among lowlife shitbags who are into dog fighting and dickless morons that "need" a status symbol,,, though the point i'm trying to make is that when in the right hands they have the right to exist in this world as much as breeds considered less dangerous. Obviously i'm in agreement there. rottweilers are not a fighting breed though...
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Post by Infinity Blade on Jun 1, 2014 17:48:55 GMT 5
This is one of the many reasons why I despise the JW forums. A couple months ago I posted some of my theories about spinosaurus (with some factual fossil related stuff as well), and everyone literally shit their pants because they both disagreed with some of the factual parts (such as it having a more slender snout than most large predatory theropods), and because they disregarded everything I said as an OPINION (yes, you read that right) and started flaming me just because I didn't state in my posts that most of it was my theory (I forgot to). Oh yea, and then I think I even remember someone claiming that my theories were offensive You can find something similar to what I posted there at Animalia Enthusiasts under the zoological debate and discussion subforum (unsure if I should post it here or not. I just feel that my obsession with spinosaurus might be annoying some people) I think you can post it here. Another example (from my school): Me: If there's no evidence that greed is linked to poverty, etc., then wouldn't that, if anything, help our case in saying greed is good (implying nothing wrong)? Other person: I don't understand. ^Are you ****ing serious?!
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Post by creature386 on Jun 1, 2014 17:58:39 GMT 5
Just curious, in what context did you say that? Has someone said that greed is bad and that there is no evidence that it is linked to poverty?
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Post by Infinity Blade on Jun 1, 2014 18:21:07 GMT 5
We had to do a group activity in history class where we learned some stuff about 1980's culture in the United States (and greed was apparently part of it). Our job was to decide on whether greed is good within society. Our group took the position that it was, and learned a few things when we were researching stuff on it. I found that it may have had something to do with poverty (as the poverty percentage apparently increased from the '70s to the '80s according to one textbook), and so I told this to my teacher. He then basically told me "you need proof that it was greed and not something else that increased the poverty percentage" (because he requires us to back up our claims).
Then comes the example I posted earlier.
Me: If there's no evidence that greed is linked to poverty, etc., then wouldn't that, if anything, help our case in saying greed is good (implying nothing wrong)?
Other person: I don't understand.
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Post by LeopJag on Jun 2, 2014 7:33:59 GMT 5
Is your teacher that into the 80s?
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Post by Infinity Blade on Jun 2, 2014 15:29:50 GMT 5
He actually does find it to be a very interesting (and awesome) time period.
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Post by Vodmeister on Jun 3, 2014 21:17:29 GMT 5
When you are wearing socks and step in the only wet spot of the kitchen. There's nothing quite more annoying than that.
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Jun 4, 2014 4:45:40 GMT 5
This is one of the many reasons why I despise the JW forums. A couple months ago I posted some of my theories about spinosaurus (with some factual fossil related stuff as well), and everyone literally shit their pants because they both disagreed with some of the factual parts (such as it having a more slender snout than most large predatory theropods), and because they disregarded everything I said as an OPINION (yes, you read that right) and started flaming me just because I didn't state in my posts that most of it was my theory (I forgot to). Oh yea, and then I think I even remember someone claiming that my theories were offensive You can find something similar to what I posted there at Animalia Enthusiasts under the zoological debate and discussion subforum (unsure if I should post it here or not. I just feel that my obsession with spinosaurus might be annoying some people) I think you can post it here. Another example (from my school): Me: If there's no evidence that greed is linked to poverty, etc., then wouldn't that, if anything, help our case in saying greed is good (implying nothing wrong)? Other person: I don't understand. ^Are you F***ing serious?! I might, although I feel as if I might annoy some people
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Post by creature386 on Jun 6, 2014 18:48:31 GMT 5
Just do so, I open so many threads which get almost no replies which means that I also post a lot that doesn't interest anyone.
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Jun 6, 2014 21:55:20 GMT 5
When people dub the USA "America" and call anyone who lives there American. True Americans are those with Native American heritage, not those with entirely European descent
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