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Post by Godzillasaurus on May 26, 2014 19:32:01 GMT 5
The first one at least seems unlikely, but the possibility of one giant horn like elasmotherium is possible. But still, we do not even know if the boss even anchored a horn in the first place. And if it did, we would have no clue of the real morphology of the horn (would it be short? Slender? Like that elasmotherium?)
Would such a large quantity of horns in such a small area even be 100% practical? It would seem unnecessary if only one horn could provide reasonable defense in itself (like styracosaurus). OR it still is possible that the large quantity of horns could be for courtship
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Post by Infinity Blade on May 26, 2014 20:24:10 GMT 5
It could certainly be practical, there are thick branches that look like the horns of modern rhinos, I don't see why not. Many ornaments used for courtship are also weapons as well.
Even if the Pachyrhinosaurus had a boss (which is a bit more likely actually), it would still be an even contender for the mammoth at parity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 10:11:31 GMT 5
Mammoth wins with relative ease. And Ausar, what's a boss?
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 9, 2019 20:05:29 GMT 5
I favor Pachyrhinosaurus, due to its more useable weaponry. If it had a spike, even better.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Feb 23, 2019 20:37:27 GMT 5
Simply because I posted here I might as well add some actual substance to this post. The European woolly mammoth morph easily wins for being more than twice the mass (though I might not have an accurate idea of how big the dinosaur is; is it actually true that the largest Pachyrhinosaurus species weighed 4 tonnes?). The Siberian morph, however, may be fair game.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 24, 2019 5:02:16 GMT 5
@infinity Blade, I think the average for the Pachyrhinosaurus iss 4 tons, not the max.
Anyhow, I favor the ceratopsian even against the 8 ton mammoth. It is more agile and actually has usable weaponry
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Post by Infinity Blade on Feb 24, 2019 8:10:40 GMT 5
You think a Pachyrhinosaurus is going to win against something twice as massive as itself? Curved mammoth tusks may not be good weapons against similar sized animals, but they could easily be used to subdue creatures half their own weight.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 24, 2019 15:58:48 GMT 5
^Isn't the maximum weight higher than 4 tons for Pachyrhinosaurus, though? Besides, mammoths aren't exactly agile, while ceratopsians (as per Jaguar vs Zuniceratops) are more mobile. With those factors, I do not see how the mammoth can win. That is just the thought process I had though; maybe I missed something?
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Post by Infinity Blade on Feb 24, 2019 17:35:30 GMT 5
I'm going to need a reference for that. I don't even know if the claim that the largest species of Pachyrhinosaurus was 4 tonnes is even correct; Wikipedia doesn't seem to have a source for it.
Even if it's true and that's just the average weight for that species, then we must ask ourselves: what's the maximum weight for the European woolly mammoth morph?
The European morph is over twice as heavy.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 24, 2019 17:54:20 GMT 5
I suppose you're correct, Infinity Blade. Now I am unsure who'd win
On a side note though, isn't 8 tons the maximum for the woolly mammoth, European or otherwise? I swear, the average was 6 tons.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Feb 24, 2019 18:08:09 GMT 5
I don't know. 6 tonnes sounds like a reasonable average for the whole species, but I don't know if that's for a particular population or, like I said, an average for the whole species (fwiw, (3.9+8.2)/2 does equal 6.05 tonnes). It could be the max weight, in which case, if you want to go by apparent average vs. apparent average, sure, 6 tonnes may be better ( link). But yeah, in the scenario I described, the mammoth wins. But even a 6t mammoth holds a 50% weight advantage over a 4t ceratopsid. And again, I don't know the truth behind the body mass of Pachyrhinosaurus, and haven't for the longest time now. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 24, 2019 18:11:51 GMT 5
^I think all the confusion comes from people mixing up the 3 separate Pachyrhinosaurus species, which to my knowledge are all of different sizes
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