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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Dec 15, 2019 12:33:34 GMT 5
A bold statement is something that may or may not be scientifically proven, however, it is something you strongly believe about an animal. This is not a debate thread.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 15, 2019 22:02:58 GMT 5
I think there is a chance (read: a chance, not set in stone or 100% guaranteed, depends on which skeletal is used) for the biggest Triceratops to get to ~15 tonnes. I also believe there is a chance (a chance, not guaranteed either and varies depending on estimations/scaling) of a 13.6 meter Mapusaurus, and of MUCPv-95's and MCF-PVPH-108.145's individual variation going the other way
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Dec 16, 2019 3:50:40 GMT 5
A lappet faced vulture’s feet is underrated in comparison to eagles.
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Post by TheLionBoy on Feb 7, 2020 23:18:16 GMT 5
Jaguar is the most powerful predator in the Americas
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 7, 2020 23:54:55 GMT 5
Why do you think that is? I can name a lot of much larger and more powerful crocodilians and bears that would easily beat a jaguar in a fight
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Post by creature386 on Feb 8, 2020 0:36:16 GMT 5
Yeah, the Kodiak bear also lives in the Americas, after all.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 8, 2020 0:42:02 GMT 5
There are black bears, grizzlies, Kodiaks, polar bears, and 4 species of crocodilans in the Americas (American alligator, American crocodile, black caiman, and Orinoco crocodile) which are all a good bit more powerful than a jaguar and would all win in a fight.
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Post by TheLionBoy on Feb 8, 2020 11:59:16 GMT 5
There are black bears, grizzlies, Kodiaks, polar bears, and 4 species of crocodilans in the Americas (American alligator, American crocodile, black caiman, and Orinoco crocodile) which are all a good bit more powerful than a jaguar and would all win in a fight. JUST IN MY OPINION Also the jaguar is the finest predator How often does a grizzly kill big prey huh And crocodiles Jaguars eat them I know an account where a black jaguar killed an adult black caiman in the water Any account of bears killing any crocodilians
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 8, 2020 16:02:26 GMT 5
There are black bears, grizzlies, Kodiaks, polar bears, and 4 species of crocodilans in the Americas (American alligator, American crocodile, black caiman, and Orinoco crocodile) which are all a good bit more powerful than a jaguar and would all win in a fight. 1: JUST IN MY OPINION Also the jaguar is the finest predator 2: How often does a grizzly kill big prey huh 3: And crocodiles Jaguars eat them 4: I know an account where a black jaguar killed an adult black caiman in the water 5: Any account of bears killing any crocodilians 1: So you mean the jaguar is your favorite? That's reasonable; we can all have our favorites. 2: We do have some accounts of them killing moose and bison 3: Smaller caimans, yes, I can see. But not really big, ferocious crocodilians like the ones above. We have the jaguar vs crocodilian matchups that I mentioned above; if you want, we can debate them. 4: Would you be able to post this? 5: None that I know of, but I believe that's simply due to bears NOT being specialized to go after them as well as a large lack of overlapping range.
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Post by TheLionBoy on Feb 8, 2020 17:32:56 GMT 5
1: JUST IN MY OPINION Also the jaguar is the finest predator 2: How often does a grizzly kill big prey huh 3: And crocodiles Jaguars eat them 4: I know an account where a black jaguar killed an adult black caiman in the water 5: Any account of bears killing any crocodilians 1: So you mean the jaguar is your favorite? That's reasonable; we can all have our favorites. 2: We do have some accounts of them killing moose and bison 3: Smaller caimans, yes, I can see. But not really big, ferocious crocodilians like the ones above. We have the jaguar vs crocodilian matchups that I mentioned above; if you want, we can debate them. 4: Would you be able to post this? 5: None that I know of, but I believe that's simply due to bears NOT being specialized to go after them as well as a large lack of overlapping range. There are accounts of them killing moose and bison really ? Them what do u mean Jaguars or Bears
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 8, 2020 17:33:49 GMT 5
1: So you mean the jaguar is your favorite? That's reasonable; we can all have our favorites. 2: We do have some accounts of them killing moose and bison 3: Smaller caimans, yes, I can see. But not really big, ferocious crocodilians like the ones above. We have the jaguar vs crocodilian matchups that I mentioned above; if you want, we can debate them. 4: Would you be able to post this? 5: None that I know of, but I believe that's simply due to bears NOT being specialized to go after them as well as a large lack of overlapping range. There are accounts of them killing moose and bison really ? Them what do u mean Jaguars or Bears Bears, of course.
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Post by kekistani on Feb 8, 2020 23:06:07 GMT 5
1: So you mean the jaguar is your favorite? That's reasonable; we can all have our favorites. 2: We do have some accounts of them killing moose and bison 3: Smaller caimans, yes, I can see. But not really big, ferocious crocodilians like the ones above. We have the jaguar vs crocodilian matchups that I mentioned above; if you want, we can debate them. 4: Would you be able to post this? 5: None that I know of, but I believe that's simply due to bears NOT being specialized to go after them as well as a large lack of overlapping range. There are accounts of them killing moose and bison really ? Them what do u mean Jaguars or Bears
Don't watch if you don't like seeing predators killing prey.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 8, 2020 23:14:49 GMT 5
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Post by TheLionBoy on Feb 8, 2020 23:48:31 GMT 5
I already know those accounts
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Post by Infinity Blade on Feb 11, 2020 8:08:15 GMT 5
I wonder if the tail of Brachiosaurus (and co.) was more massive relative to total size than thought. I came across a Brachiosaurus model from one of Donald Henderson's studies, which turned out to be surprisingly big and long tailed. I looked at his justification for this and this is what he said: sci-hub.tw/10.1671/0272-4634(2006)26[907:BGCOMS]2.0.CO;2He compares tail and trunk ratios of what's actually a Giraffatitan (another brachiosaurid) with three other supposed macronarians and a couple other sauropods, and also points out that the Berlin Giraffatitan is apparently a composite of several individuals (the tail and presacral axial skeleton supposedly being from different animals). He then conservatively extended length to 2.5 times the length of the trunk. Any sauropod experts want to weigh in?
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