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Post by creature386 on Jan 2, 2020 18:34:35 GMT 5
Not just that, but better stamina, giant hand claws, foot claws, a ~71 cm skull full of serrated teeth, and the ability to use all its weapons at once - imagine how much damage would be caused from simultaneously landing several bites, slashing with the hand claws, and stabbing with the foot claws simultaneously. Why do you think it has greater stamina. Polar bears are known for their stamina, walking, running or swimming. They have great endurance, and I think that would be one advantage over the Utahraptor, which is not to say the dinosaur has poor endurance. It's not clear if dinosauria was comparing the stamina of the Utahraptor and the bear or that of the Utahraptor and the walrus (see my comment above his). On land, I can imagine that the seal would get tired rather quickly, but you are right that saying Utahraptor had better stamina than the bear is speculative at best. Especially since I remember Ursus arctos having posted a study about how having airsacs does not translate into higher stamina in birds than in mammals; it just means they can use more of their energy at once (which they need for flight). Unfortunately, that was posted in the archive and my memory alone is a pretty worthless source.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 2, 2020 18:38:00 GMT 5
Not just that, but better stamina, giant hand claws, foot claws, a ~71 cm skull full of serrated teeth, and the ability to use all its weapons at once - imagine how much damage would be caused from simultaneously landing several bites, slashing with the hand claws, and stabbing with the foot claws simultaneously. Why do you think it has greater stamina. Polar bears are known for their stamina, walking, running or swimming. They have great endurance, and I think that would be one advantage over the Utahraptor, which is not to say the dinosaur has poor endurance. Due to its advanced respiratory system (similar to what birds have today, a system of air sacs) as well as not having any overheating issue
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Post by Infinity Blade on Jan 2, 2020 19:51:03 GMT 5
Why do you think it has greater stamina. Polar bears are known for their stamina, walking, running or swimming. They have great endurance, and I think that would be one advantage over the Utahraptor, which is not to say the dinosaur has poor endurance. It's not clear if dinosauria was comparing the stamina of the Utahraptor and the bear or that of the Utahraptor and the walrus (see my comment above his). On land, I can imagine that the seal would get tired rather quickly, but you are right that saying Utahraptor had better stamina than the bear is speculative at best. Especially since I remember Ursus arctos having posted a study about how having airsacs does not translate into higher stamina in birds than in mammals; it just means they can use more of their energy at once (which they need for flight). Unfortunately, that was posted in the archive and my memory alone is a pretty worthless source. I remember that too. But if I understand this post-> correctly, theropod seems to imply that the dinosaurian respiratory system is conducive to stamina (although he doesn't know how much of that is simply down to bipedalism). He doesn't post a study or anything like that, but given how recent this is compared to that old Ursus arctos post, I wonder if theropod has any info that's more up-to-date on him. I don't think this necessarily means the polar bear has inferior stamina, but the dinosaurian respiratory system may be something to consider in threads like this.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 2, 2020 20:04:02 GMT 5
I think (overheating not considered) the overall stamina for both animals would be fairly comparable. But since the polar bear has temperature issues and Utahraptor does not, that would probably give the dinosaur an edge stamina wise
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Post by creature386 on Jan 2, 2020 20:23:04 GMT 5
What setting are you assuming?
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 2, 2020 20:33:14 GMT 5
I was thinking somewhere along the lines of the mean temperatures of the 2 environments (ice and snow vs hot and dry), maybe around 20-25 degrees? Even in the Arctic (or so I have heard), polar bears can overheat if things get too vigorous, so I think overheating is something the bear has to worry about pretty much no matter what.
Having said that, even if the dinosaur's stamina was equal to or inferior to that of the bear's, I'd still favor it due to its larger size, larger skull and jaws, and much larger and more prominent hand and foot claws.
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