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Post by mountainlord on Nov 7, 2019 0:52:09 GMT 5
Many years ago, dismembered carcasses of tigers were discovered on Siberian snows. Naturalists and scientists were intrigued. the tigers were hunted by SHATUN bears. 
This account is a joke. A blatant made-up story. Check your sources before you post ridiculous shit like this. |
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Post by mountainlord on Nov 7, 2019 0:55:49 GMT 5
THE SIBERIAN TIGER PROJECT CHAPTER 19: 12 KNOWN CASES OF BROWN BEARS KILLING AND EATING TIGERS IN THE WILD, INCLUDING 6 ADULTS. 
Look, 22 Brown bears killed by tigers, and only 12 tigers killed by bears....(The tigers won a significant amount more)
And here's the exact same source you posted from Chapter 19. Look again, 22 Brown bears killed by tigers (50%) and 12 tigers killed:
So your source proves nothing! As usual. In those statistics, the tigers won most of the fights, and some of the tigers that were killed by bears were CUBS!! (Your own source says it) loool... |
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Post by mountainlord on Nov 7, 2019 1:03:16 GMT 5
A well-documented fight for reference. A sloth bear (female) fought an aggressive Tiger (male?) for like 15 minutes and managed to drive the Tiger away, saving her cub in the process. This fight is very telling. Bears can definitely hold their own against other large predators, and some of the largest bears (male) are expected to be beyond any Tiger's capacity to handle in a fight. Greatest/strongest predatory cat is lion (Panthera lio). No terrestrial predator stand a chance against an experienced adult lion (male) in a fight; only an adult elephant or giraffe might manage to escape due to sheer size factor.
Here's a much better video of a male tiger that easily kills an adult female sloth bear within seconds!!
Overall, even large adult male sloth bears are NO MATCH for a tiger. Even female tigers have killed adult male sloth bears.
FYI, Tigers are superior to lions. Tigers have killed many lions throughout history. Tigers possess almost every single physical advantage over the lion, fact. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Nov 7, 2019 1:32:01 GMT 5
No terrestrial predator stand a chance against an experienced adult lion (male) in a fight; only an adult elephant or giraffe might manage to escape due to sheer size factor. If this isn't misworded, surely a grizzly, Kodiak or polar bear, as well as Bengal or Siberian tiger, would stand a chance against a male African lion? |
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Post by Life on Nov 7, 2019 13:00:27 GMT 5
No terrestrial predator stand a chance against an experienced adult lion (male) in a fight; only an adult elephant or giraffe might manage to escape due to sheer size factor. If this isn't misworded, surely a grizzly, Kodiak or polar bear, as well as Bengal or Siberian tiger, would stand a chance against a male African lion? These animals inhabit different environments so chances of them crossing paths are slim to none in the wild. Nevertheless, lions hunt potential prey out in the open whereas tigers are more into ambushing potential prey - significant difference in predatory potential and capacity. Male lions are particularly renowned for their strength and ability to kill animals larger than themselves so yes.. |
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Post by Life on Nov 7, 2019 13:17:54 GMT 5
A well-documented fight for reference. A sloth bear (female) fought an aggressive Tiger (male?) for like 15 minutes and managed to drive the Tiger away, saving her cub in the process. This fight is very telling. Bears can definitely hold their own against other large predators, and some of the largest bears (male) are expected to be beyond any Tiger's capacity to handle in a fight. Greatest/strongest predatory cat is lion (Panthera lio). No terrestrial predator stand a chance against an experienced adult lion (male) in a fight; only an adult elephant or giraffe might manage to escape due to sheer size factor.
Here's a much better video of a male tiger that easily kills an adult female sloth bear within seconds!!
Overall, even large adult male sloth bears are NO MATCH for a tiger. Even female tigers have killed adult male sloth bears.
FYI, Tigers are superior to lions. Tigers have killed many lions throughout history. Tigers possess almost every single physical advantage over the lion, fact.You see toying but I see a tiger failing to kill an adult Sloth bear female. The video you posted is very obscure; I do see a bear getting up and walking away. I do not deny a tiger's ability to kill a bear but the largest of bears will be too much to handle. As for tiger being superior to lion and killing many - is FANON. Male lions have no peer in strength and capacity to kill among all cats. |
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Post by brobear on Nov 7, 2019 14:51:24 GMT 5
Post #51 - Misha ( also called Dale ) "the bear killer" is famous for killing two grizzly she-bears probably by mistaken them for sub-adults. There have been several female grizzlies killed over the centuries. Your point? Tigers kill bears. Yes, we know this. A tiger is a predator. They hunt juvenile brown bears and will even take down an adult male black bear by ambush. Show me where a tiger kills a mature male brown bear - a grizzly boar.   |
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Post by brobear on Nov 7, 2019 17:40:36 GMT 5
![]() Mounted by Sysoev to illustrate a fight in which the bear killed the tiger. Equal in size ( bipedal height/head-and-body length ) the bear is stronger with greater girth and a better fighter. Looks like the tiger is winning. Looks can be deceiving.  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Nov 7, 2019 18:10:02 GMT 5
brobearmountainlordYou guys do know how taxidermists mount things has little to no implication on who wins?
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Post by brobear on Nov 7, 2019 19:18:58 GMT 5
brobear mountainlord You guys do know how taxidermists mount things has little to no implication on who wins? Mounted by Sysoev who claims to have witnessed such a fight in the R.F.E. Despite the powerful jaws and long canine teeth of the tiger, a mature male grizzly has a tough hide, long hair, and a thick layer of muscle protecting his neck. A tiger always kills a bear by ambush leading to a bite at the base of the bruin's neck. This method does not work on the mature male grizzly fast enough. The bear, being the stronger of the two opponents, will dislodge the tiger and kill him. |
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Post by mountainlord on Nov 7, 2019 19:20:43 GMT 5
Brobear
Again, your lying out of your ass. Did you even read my post properly?? Did you see all the fight statistics I posted which proves the tiger is the general winner in a fight against a Brown bear?
It seems that your afraid to read my posts and the accounts I'm posting because you know you have no refutation, whatsoever.
Misha is NOT Dale...and I repeat, Misha is not Dale. Dale was reported to kill at least FOUR adult Brown bears, not two. Misha was the one that killed two large adult females, that were his own size. The account I posted about Misha CLEARLY stated that he has NO TROUBLE in killing equal-sized adult brown bears. Dale is the one that killed two large adult female brown bears after a prolonged fight. Not Misha.
You very clearly haven't got a clue what your talking about, period. Dale's other names were "M20" and "Dima"....not Misha. Thats a different tiger. I posted blatant evidence right in your face confirming it. And yet, your still repeating the same nonsense.
Then there was another tiger in 2001, that killed another large similar-sized adult female Brown bear in a fight. So altogether thats SEVEN large adult female Brown bears all killed and eaten by tigers. Four by Dale, two by Misha and one from another tiger. All separate accounts.
And here's a CONFIRMED account of a tiger that hunted down and killed a MALE Brown bear:
"In the winter of 1982, the main forester of the reserve Kirst and A.D Saiko observed the pursuit by a tiger of a male brown bear for more than 500 meters. Attacking a bear running away along the valley of the key from the terrace of the narrow end of the water business, and without killing him, the tiger slipped to intercept the bear hundreds of meters from where it made a new attack from an ambush, trying to cling to his neck, the tiger managed to get a male bear as a result."
www.researchgate.net/publication/278966334_Search_of_Prey_and_Tactic_of_hunting_of_the_amur_Tiger_Panthera_tigris_altaica
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Post by mountainlord on Nov 7, 2019 19:23:16 GMT 5
![]() Mounted by Sysoev to illustrate a fight in which the bear killed the tiger. Equal in size ( bipedal height/head-and-body length ) the bear is stronger with greater girth and a better fighter. Looks like the tiger is winning. Looks can be deceiving. |
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Post by brobear on Nov 7, 2019 19:33:28 GMT 5
Quote: "As a result, get a male bear."
Misha is not Dale - false.
Confirmed? This source is hard to read. It will take some time. If it is true; I will accept it. Thus far ( years ) I have discovered one case of a lion killing a male grizzly. Many cases of the bear killing the lion. If this turns out to be legit, then I will be able to say the same for the tiger.
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Post by mountainlord on Nov 7, 2019 19:37:40 GMT 5
The tiger DOMINATED most of that fight against the bear. It was clearly inexperienced. In fact, the tiger looked like it was toying with the bear at one point.
Here's a much better video of a male tiger that easily kills an adult female sloth bear within seconds!!
Overall, even large adult male sloth bears are NO MATCH for a tiger. Even female tigers have killed adult male sloth bears.
FYI, Tigers are superior to lions. Tigers have killed many lions throughout history. Tigers possess almost every single physical advantage over the lion, fact. You see toying but I see a tiger failing to kill an adult Sloth bear female. The video you posted is very obscure; I do see a bear getting up and walking away. I do not deny a tiger's ability to kill a bear but the largest of bears will be too much to handle. As for tiger being superior to lion and killing many - is FANON. Male lions have no peer in strength and capacity to kill among all cats.
Also, tigers are far superior killers than lions. You have no evidence to back up what your claiming. In fact, show me one single confirmed account of a lone lion killing a full-grown adult BULL buffalo??
Tigers routinely hunt and kill large Bull gaurs:
www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalfightclub/tiger-predation-on-adult-gaur-wild-water-buffalo-a-t101.html
Tigers have single-handedly killed adult Elephants and Rhinos:
www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalfightclub/tiger-kills-adult-elephants-and-rhino-accounts-t99.html#p2225
Tigers hunt and kill large adult Brown bears:
www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalfightclub/tigers-dominate-kill-and-eat-bears-t81.html
Tigers regularly kill huge Russian wild boars:
www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalfightclub/tiger-kills-huge-wild-boars-t94.html
A tigers physical and killing prowess and capabilities is on another level from the lions, fact. Its not even debatable.
And I can show you many accounts of tigers killing lions in combat. Even of one single tiger that killed 31 lions. You can see the accounts here....
www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalfightclub/tiger-kills-lions-t84.html |
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Post by mountainlord on Nov 7, 2019 19:42:09 GMT 5
Quote: "As a result, get a male bear." Misha is not Dale - false. Confirmed? This source is hard to read. It will take some time. If it is true; I will accept it. Thus far ( years ) I have discovered one case of a lion killing a male grizzly. Many cases of the bear killing the lion. If this turns out to be legit, then I will be able to say the same for the tiger.
What do you mean "turn out to be legit"? Are you serious?? Lol...That account is reported and documented in SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE on "Researchgate" which is the worlds top leading scientific website with millions of scientific studies and articles.
How much more legit do you want the account to be? Your ridiculous.
Misha is not Dale - FACT, and I repeat FACT....I posted the evidence proving it, whereas you posted nothing, absolutely nothing. Big difference! |
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