Post by Infinity Blade on Nov 18, 2019 0:14:44 GMT 5
You never provided a single shred of proof from any expert or authority on footprints/primate anatomy etc...that has debunked Bigfoot tracks. You post selective nonsense from skeptics who leave out all the other pieces of evidence.
For once in your life, post evidence from an authority in this field that completely debunks the Bigfoot tracks as evidence?
For once in your life, post evidence from an authority in this field that completely debunks the Bigfoot tracks as evidence?
So you're just going to brush off the link I posted earlier?
Sure, the guy who conducted the experiment that the article I linked to mentioned doesn't appear to be an "authority on footprints/primate anatomy". But frankly, that's okay. At the end of the day, it's the arguments and how strong they are/how well they hold up to scientific scrutiny that count. I frankly don’t care if a professor of anatomy and anthropology says that “For this to have been faked…it would have required several different sets [of artificial feet] that were interchanged in just the right places and that just gets way beyond the realm of credulity”. That statement itself is questionable, and his credentials as a professor of anatomy and anthropology don’t magically make it correct.
Maybe I could have posted something from an expert with similar credentials that properly addresses and questions these Bigfoot tracks…if these reports and arguments for these being genuine tracks were actually published in a paper in a respectable scientific journal. But, contrary to your later statement, I have yet to see this. How convenient.
Footprints and samples have been described in published papers, articles and books.
Books and articles (which may or may not be scholarly?) I’m sure of. Published papers? We’ve been asking you for these.
And yes, I was talking about that specific track that the article addresses.
So let me get this straight: you’re just going to deny this right here?
skepticalinquirer.org/newsletter/experiments_cast_doubt_on_bigfoot_evidence/
LMAO! I can't believe you just said that. If you did that with your finger and hands, you'll easily be able to tell if that was the case. Especially on wet mud. Use your common sense.
I feel like the fact that it’s on, well, wet mud, actually helps my case that you can literally just make some silly imprint in it with pretty much anything, and that if you claimed it was made by a certain something it would be very difficult to tell exactly how it was made solely from looking at it.
If Meldrum was literally that easy to fool, then what kind of an "expert" is he? Let alone a top respected authority in this field.
If by “this field” you’re referring to his work and competency as a professor of anthropology and anatomy, that frankly is irrelevant to what he thinks of Bigfoot and whether or not his reasons to think it may be real actually hold up to scrutiny. He can still be a competent authority in that field and yet hold questionable beliefs regarding how genuine Bigfoot tracks are.
Yeah, I'm mind blown that you think these things are so simple! And I'm also mind blown that you think any random person out there can easily fool such a highly respected expert and professor on primate/human anatomy and footprints.
Oh yeah, I forgot, your the expert, not Meldrum.
Fabricated by hand?....Get real. You think everything is that simple. Come to reality.
Fabricated by hand?....Get real. You think everything is that simple. Come to reality.
These are similar points, and there's no real substance to these other than you telling me that I “think everything is so simple hurr durr”. I'm guessing the only thing I can do is move on?
No, stop waffling. Explain to me how someone can fool a top expert like Meldrum, by creating such realistic footprints. From toe drags, heel slides etc...without leaving a slight trace of themselves there??... And don't give me that "Fabricated by hand" nonsense, because thats just laughable. Also if someone did "fabricate it by hand" then you'll see marks of their KNEE'S, LEGS and FEET on the floor. You see, it just doesn't add up or make any sense.
No, I’ll continue to give you this “nonsense”. Even if I were to completely ignore any possibility of literally just covering up your tracks, has it ever occurred to you that the people fabricating these so called “footprints” were standing on ground that could actually support their weight well enough to not give way to their own feet and legs creating prints, while they fabricated their oh so totally real Bigfoot tracks in muddier spots in the area?
These things look so clear cut, damning, and realistic to you that you couldn’t possibly think how someone could fabricate these?
Really?
Again, stop waffling and beating around the bush....ANSWER MY QUESTION?....
So your telling me, that all the authentic Bigfoot footprints that have been concluded to be 100% real by undisputed experts in this field, which were also found in remote regions, mountain tops, rocky hills etc etc....were all hoaxed by some random artists (Or people) who even climbed several thousand feet up in the mountains for a joke, just hoping that one day, someone might come and find these footprints?...
This all makes logical sense to you?
So your telling me, that all the authentic Bigfoot footprints that have been concluded to be 100% real by undisputed experts in this field, which were also found in remote regions, mountain tops, rocky hills etc etc....were all hoaxed by some random artists (Or people) who even climbed several thousand feet up in the mountains for a joke, just hoping that one day, someone might come and find these footprints?...
This all makes logical sense to you?
How about you actually read my post properly first? I DID answer your question.
You asked, and I quote:
“OK, but is every single person thats "faking" Bigfoot footprints an artist?? So your telling me, that all the authentic Bigfoot footprints that have been concluded to be 100% real by undisputed experts in this field, which were also found in remote regions, mountain tops, rocky hills etc etc....were all hoaxed by some random artists who even climbed several thousand feet up in the mountains for a joke, just hoping that one day, someone might come and find these footprints?...
This all makes logical sense to you?”
And I responded back by saying:
“No, that's not what I'm saying at all. This is what I'm saying.
1.) The article I posted about one of Jimmy Chilcutt's alleged Bigfoot tracks talks about an experiment conducted by a guy named Matt Crowley to see whether or not dermal ridges could be mimicked when fabricating a Bigfoot footprint cast.
2.) I mentioned Matt Crowley's credentials/what he does for a living and how this relates to his experiment. He is an artist.
3.) He found that casting artifacts can, in fact, mimic dermal ridges.
I never said anything about how everyone who might fake a Bigfoot footprint is some artist.”
Hell, I even answered your questions with a straight ‘no’; my answer, frankly, could not have been any clearer. My wAfFlInG aRoUnD was just me explaining what I was actually trying to say to you.
Also, here's an interesting article I found that logically explains why we can't find Bigfoot remains/bones:
exemplore.com/cryptids/If-Bigfoot-is-Real-Where-are-the-Bones
Read through that article properly, and maybe you guys will find some answers your looking for.
exemplore.com/cryptids/If-Bigfoot-is-Real-Where-are-the-Bones
Read through that article properly, and maybe you guys will find some answers your looking for.
I love how this article actually concludes by saying “But for now the skeptics have the scientific high ground. Without any solid proof Bigfoot is relegated to the shadowy world of cryptozoology. Many of those skeptics would love nothing more than to be proven wrong, and be shown that Bigfoot does exist. Bones or fossils would do it, but for now this evidence is sorely lacking.”.
But anyway, the article’s potential justification for Bigfoot’s existence basically amounts to:
- speculation about population
- speculation about lifespan
- speculation about interring their dead
- the fossil record not usually preserving things (which is 100% true, but then again, not only have we been uncovering fossils in North America for like, well over a century or two and still not found any remains, but we’re also not holding our breath to find remains of Bigfoot or its ancestors, partly because of that aforementioned fact)
- muh (inconclusive at best) sightings and remains
