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Post by DinosaurMichael on May 31, 2013 18:35:36 GMT 5
No, not in that case. It was just too large, would need huge amounts of food and sightings of huge sharks can be attributed to exagerationg and other species. I think especially during whaling era there would have had to be traces of such a gigantig, whale-hunting shark. Also since shark teeth are relatively common, one would expect to find them. And a giant lamnid wouldn't be able to live in great depths. I do believe Megalodon is still alive. I just wanted to ask if you believe it or not. And if Megalodon were in the deepest depths of the ocean. It would have evolved. |
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Post by theropod on May 31, 2013 20:19:06 GMT 5
I doubt a pelagic macropredatory shark could adapt to living in the deep sea in jsut 2 miy. And if it did, one wouldn't consider it the same species and genus any more, since these classifications are still subjective and trait-based for differentiating animals. So I think it isn't possible that a lamniform that we would still consider carcharocles could still live today.
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Post by DinosaurMichael on May 31, 2013 20:24:21 GMT 5
I doubt a pelagic macropredatory shark could adapt to living in the deep sea in jsut 2 miy. And if it did, one wouldn't consider it the same species and genus any more, since these classifications are still subjective and trait-based for differentiating animals. So I think it isn't possible that a lamniform that we would still consider carcharocles could still live today. Very true now that you say it and I can agree with what you said. |
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Post by creature386 on May 31, 2013 21:13:51 GMT 5
Surviving Varanus priscus somewhere on Papua New Guinea Didn't Megalania only live in Australia....? Papua New Guinea has a fauna what is very similar to that of Australia. |
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Post by Grey on Jun 2, 2013 10:00:44 GMT 5
Carbon dating is irrelevant with old fossils. The alleged 11 000 years old teeth are hogwash, though good basic stuff for fictional works.
Fully agreed with theropod, except for the sharks teeth part, we don't found teeth of extant pelagic species like Carcharhinus longimanus...
But doesn't change anything.
If megalodon had survived in the abyss, it would have evolved a totally new lifestyle and shape, and it wouldn't be a megalodon anymore.
Bite marks on whales would have been seen since a while.
That being said, I remember a doc about meg 10 years ago where we could see an adult grey whale with a huge bite mark in half-circle in the region of the peduncle.
The narrator speculated though it may had been made by a great white when the whale was young...
Regarding giants monitors in New Guinea, why not simply an unknown, close populations of the V. komodensis species ? Or perhaps isolated komodo dragons which were accidentally introduced in the area and grown to huge size because of the lack of competition and isolation on the island ?
Yeah, I'm far too much speculating, I don't like that.
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Post by theropod on Jun 2, 2013 14:37:05 GMT 5
Something interesting, would be be able to tell apart an overgrown Varanus komodoensis from Varanus priscus, or would we classify it as megalania?
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 2, 2013 15:49:31 GMT 5
Carbon dating is irrelevant with old fossils. The alleged 11 000 years old teeth are hogwash, though good basic stuff for fictional works. Fully agreed with theropod, except for the sharks teeth part, we don't found teeth of extant pelagic species like Carcharhinus longimanus... But doesn't change anything. If megalodon had survived in the abyss, it would have evolved a totally new lifestyle and shape, and it wouldn't be a megalodon anymore. Bite marks on whales would have been seen since a while. That being said, I remember a doc about meg 10 years ago where we could see an adult grey whale with a huge bite mark in half-circle in the region of the peduncle. The narrator speculated though it may had been made by a great white when the whale was young... Regarding giants monitors in New Guinea, why not simply an unknown, close populations of the V. komodensis species ? Or perhaps isolated komodo dragons which were accidentally introduced in the area and grown to huge size because of the lack of competition and isolation on the island ? Yeah, I'm far too much speculating, I don't like that. despite the fact that they are called land crocodiles, Ora are capable swimmers and will island hope between close islands, so there really is tge potential for a pocket population to occur almost anywhere in indonesia. Interesting side note: in my province it is illegal to kill a sasquatch, Its a real law. British columbia protecting creatures that probably dont exist. |
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Post by Vodmeister on Jun 2, 2013 23:36:56 GMT 5
Bigfoot, it's entirely possible for a large mammal to go unnoticed. A large primate in Africa wasn't discovered until the large 1900's, even though locals had been talking about it for centuries. 97% of Canada isn't even populated, and Russia has the largest forest areas in the world. A large, intelligent Bear-sized Ape could inhabit there while avoiding human contact. Also, there are too many eye-witness accounts of a Sasquatch throughout history for me not to believe that there cannot be something out there.
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Post by gigadino96 on Jun 3, 2013 19:14:41 GMT 5
I believe that Bigfoot could exist. It would be basically a big monkey or something like that. From this photo, it looks like a gorilla.  |
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Post by theropod on Jun 3, 2013 20:10:54 GMT 5
Couldn't that just be someone in an ape costume? Looks too upright to be a real ape, the posture is very reminiscent of a human.
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Post by gigadino96 on Jun 3, 2013 20:53:38 GMT 5
Now that you mention it, it might as well be a man dressed as a monkey. However, do not exclude that a large primate could live in North America.
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Post by theropod on Jun 4, 2013 1:19:22 GMT 5
Me neither. However I am wondering were they would have come from. Other apes are only found in tropical climates, with the exception of humans that use clothes and fire (and lots of unnatural stuff nowadays of course).
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Post by Grey on Jun 4, 2013 6:31:16 GMT 5
For those who read The Loch novel by Steve Alten, his proposition as the Nessie's identity is interesting (SPOILER !!!):
a giant, 12-18 m, carnivorous agressive eel that migrate between the lake and the Atlantic at great depths.
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Post by DinosaurMichael on Jun 4, 2013 6:40:11 GMT 5
For those who read The Loch novel by Steve Alten, his proposition as the Nessie's identity is interesting (SPOILER !!!): a giant, 12-18 m, carnivorous agressive eel that migrate between the lake and the Atlantic at great depths. I have and read that book. It's really good.  |
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Post by Grey on Jun 4, 2013 6:52:10 GMT 5
The only one from Alten series I have not read !
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