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Post by rock on May 28, 2019 3:06:55 GMT 5
the size should not matter , plus alligators have no experince with any type of big cat 1: How does size not matter? 2: They do - Florida panthers if you mean cougars they are not nearly as strong as jaguars and alligators do not deal with cougars as often as jaguars deal with caimans , also size doesnt always matter as i have heard cases of small lions killing large polar bears and small leopards killing large tigers.  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 28, 2019 3:10:02 GMT 5
1: How does size not matter? 2: They do - Florida panthers if you mean cougars they are not nearly as strong as jaguars and alligators do not deal with cougars as often as jaguars deal with caimans , also size doesnt always matter as i have heard cases of small lions killing large polar bears and small leopards killing large tigers. 1: True, but how often do jaguars deal with crocodilians almost 4 times bigger than themselves, in a face to face fight, in a fight to the death? Different tactics need to be applied for different sized crocodilians 2: Please explain how that's relevant here. Bears and crocodilians are very different, and circus animals are often unhealthy |
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Post by rock on May 28, 2019 3:12:26 GMT 5
if you mean cougars they are not nearly as strong as jaguars and alligators do not deal with cougars as often as jaguars deal with caimans , also size doesnt always matter as i have heard cases of small lions killing large polar bears and small leopards killing large tigers. 1: True, but how often do jaguars deal with crocodilians almost 4 times bigger than themselves, in a face to face fight, in a fight to the death? Different tactics need to be applied for different sized crocodilians 2: Please explain how that's relevant here. Bears and crocodilians are very different, and circus animals are often unhealthy of course i do not back a lion to beat a polar bear or a leopard to beat a tiger in most instances but it can happen in a rare case , anyways jaguars do fight black caimans which are pretty large of course they dont hunt them but still have experince with them. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 28, 2019 3:17:43 GMT 5
1: True, but how often do jaguars deal with crocodilians almost 4 times bigger than themselves, in a face to face fight, in a fight to the death? Different tactics need to be applied for different sized crocodilians 2: Please explain how that's relevant here. Bears and crocodilians are very different, and circus animals are often unhealthy of course i do not back a lion to beat a polar bear or a leopard to beat a tiger in most instances but it can happen in a rare case , anyways jaguars do fight black caimans which are pretty large of course they dont hunt them but still have experince with them. Kind of my point. The jaguar will not get immediately obliterated, and winning on land would not be easy for the gator, but it would win due to its large size |
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Post by rock on May 28, 2019 3:42:06 GMT 5
of course i do not back a lion to beat a polar bear or a leopard to beat a tiger in most instances but it can happen in a rare case , anyways jaguars do fight black caimans which are pretty large of course they dont hunt them but still have experince with them. Kind of my point. The jaguar will not get immediately obliterated, and winning on land would not be easy for the gator, but it would win due to its large size i disagree but i can see if you favor the gator on land as one bite would kill or injure the jaguar , but i still think jaguar wins 6/10 on land |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 28, 2019 3:44:13 GMT 5
Kind of my point. The jaguar will not get immediately obliterated, and winning on land would not be easy for the gator, but it would win due to its large size i disagree but i can see if you favor the gator on land as one bite would kill or injure the jaguar , but i still think jaguar wins 6/10 on land Well I suppose if you want, we could agree to disagree. However, I still have yet to see an argument that converts me to the cat on land |
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Post by rock on May 28, 2019 3:54:32 GMT 5
i disagree but i can see if you favor the gator on land as one bite would kill or injure the jaguar , but i still think jaguar wins 6/10 on land Well I suppose if you want, we could agree to disagree. However, I still have yet to see an argument that converts me to the cat on land its an oppion so i respectfully disagree , as for now i favor the cat on land and the gator in the water |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 28, 2019 3:56:42 GMT 5
Well I suppose if you want, we could agree to disagree. However, I still have yet to see an argument that converts me to the cat on land its an oppion so i respectfully disagree , as for now i favor the cat on land and the gator in the water Let's see what the others think. Maybe they can change either one of our opinions |
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Post by arethousleepy on May 28, 2019 5:28:05 GMT 5
I hope you're all not forgetting that gators not just have a bone crushing bite, but a tail whip that can kill a person based on this gator wrangler's words:
"I remember one time I got whacked in the tail by a 10 footer, and it was the hardest I've ever gotten hit in my life. My whole vision just went super bright and instant pain, it took me a couple hours to recuperate from it. It's so strong, if they whack you or clocked you in the head just right, getting knocked out could happen, but they could cause more serious damage than that, possibly even kill you with just hitting you in the head. (Donny Aldarelli)"
People getting whipped and headbutted by a restrained alligator (1 person gets knocked out!):
And that was only from a 10 footer! A 14 foot gator would be doing much more. Also, how does size not matter? If anything, that's why jaguars prey on caimans.
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 28, 2019 16:48:09 GMT 5
I hope you're all not forgetting that gators not just have a bone crushing bite, but a tail whip that can kill a person based on this gator wrangler's words: " I remember one time I got whacked in the tail by a 10 footer, and it was the hardest I've ever gotten hit in my life. My whole vision just went super bright and instant pain, it took me a couple hours to recuperate from it. It's so strong, if they whack you or clocked you in the head just right, getting knocked out could happen, but they could cause more serious damage than that, possibly even kill you with just hitting you in the head. (Donny Aldarelli)" People getting whipped and headbutted by a restrained alligator (1 person gets knocked out!): And that was only from a 10 footer! A 14 foot gator would be doing much more. Also, how does size not matter? If anything, that's why jaguars prey on caimans. Thank you so much for posting this! It shows how the alligator can easily shake off or disgruntle the jaguar on land |
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