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Post by smedz on Sept 22, 2019 17:26:56 GMT 5
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Post by dinosauria101 on Sept 22, 2019 17:51:12 GMT 5
What do you mean by that? |
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Post by smedz on Sept 22, 2019 18:46:42 GMT 5
What do you mean by that? These are links to articles in text form. Sorry for the inconvienience. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Sept 22, 2019 20:47:35 GMT 5
What do you mean by that? These are links to articles in text form. Sorry for the inconvienience. Ah, OK But in a death match, I;d still favor the wolves |
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Post by smedz on Sept 22, 2019 20:59:17 GMT 5
dinosauria101 fine, and while I disagree, I just wanted to make sure you knew tigers dominate wolves in the wild.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Sept 22, 2019 21:01:45 GMT 5
I believe that was where wolf populations were already not doing well, could be wrong though.
How do you think the tiger can catch and kill the wolves before being killed or tiring?
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Post by smedz on Sept 22, 2019 21:44:21 GMT 5
I believe that was where wolf populations were already not doing well, could be wrong though. How do you think the tiger can catch and kill the wolves before being killed or tiring? The land in the RFE is suitable wolf habitat, in fact when the tigers began disappearing, wolves rebounded, and some native elders in Sikhote-Alin have no recollection of wolves prior to the 1930's, tigers, not humans(for once) being the reason for this. Now to many, this question may be brought up. Why would tigers be the major factor? Prey is the answer. Prey occur at naturally low densities in the regions, making competition more intense. It also doesn't really help the wolves that both species have quite a big dietary overlap, making tigers very intolerant of them. As for your question, when a tiger is determined, it can and will catch a wolf, then kill it. Whether it's from a bite to the neck, or by breaking the spine with a paw strike. The tiger may perhaps kill another one, this in turn will make the rest back off (I'm assuming we're speaking of a male tiger against 7 wolves) because now they know that that tiger can kill them in just one blow, so to avoid anymore unnecessary risk, they back down. After all, animals put self preservation first. Because predators usually put self preservation first, it's likely that 7 wolves would avoid a male tiger at all costs. Same reason a big wolf pack won't hunt down a healthy boar grizzly. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Sept 22, 2019 22:08:13 GMT 5
I believe that was where wolf populations were already not doing well, could be wrong though. How do you think the tiger can catch and kill the wolves before being killed or tiring? 1: The land in the RFE is suitable wolf habitat, in fact when the tigers began disappearing, wolves rebounded, and some native elders in Sikhote-Alin have no recollection of wolves prior to the 1930's, tigers, not humans(for once) being the reason for this. Now to many, this question may be brought up. Why would tigers be the major factor? Prey is the answer. Prey occur at naturally low densities in the regions, making competition more intense. It also doesn't really help the wolves that both species have quite a big dietary overlap, making tigers very intolerant of them. 2: As for your question, when a tiger is determined, it can and will catch a wolf, then kill it. Whether it's from a bite to the neck, or by breaking the spine with a paw strike. The tiger may perhaps kill another one, this in turn will make the rest back off (I'm assuming we're speaking of a male tiger against 7 wolves) because now they know that that tiger can kill them in just one blow, so to avoid anymore unnecessary risk, they back down. After all, animals put self preservation first. Because predators usually put self preservation first, it's likely that 7 wolves would avoid a male tiger at all costs. Same reason a big wolf pack won't hunt down a healthy boar grizzly. 1: Oh, that makes sense. Thank you for sharing it. 2: I didn't mean the method. Rather, do you think the tiger can catch all the wolves before either tiring or succumbing to injuries? |
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Post by smedz on Sept 22, 2019 22:13:51 GMT 5
1: The land in the RFE is suitable wolf habitat, in fact when the tigers began disappearing, wolves rebounded, and some native elders in Sikhote-Alin have no recollection of wolves prior to the 1930's, tigers, not humans(for once) being the reason for this. Now to many, this question may be brought up. Why would tigers be the major factor? Prey is the answer. Prey occur at naturally low densities in the regions, making competition more intense. It also doesn't really help the wolves that both species have quite a big dietary overlap, making tigers very intolerant of them. 2: As for your question, when a tiger is determined, it can and will catch a wolf, then kill it. Whether it's from a bite to the neck, or by breaking the spine with a paw strike. The tiger may perhaps kill another one, this in turn will make the rest back off (I'm assuming we're speaking of a male tiger against 7 wolves) because now they know that that tiger can kill them in just one blow, so to avoid anymore unnecessary risk, they back down. After all, animals put self preservation first. Because predators usually put self preservation first, it's likely that 7 wolves would avoid a male tiger at all costs. Same reason a big wolf pack won't hunt down a healthy boar grizzly. 1: Oh, that makes sense. Thank you for sharing it. 2: I didn't mean the method. Rather, do you think the tiger can catch all the wolves before either tiring or succumbing to injuries? 1: Your Welcome 2: Appears I misunderstood, my mistake. Do I think so? Probably. I just don't really believe it would need to. But in the end we both have our views on the subject. Perhaps leave it there? |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Sept 22, 2019 23:15:52 GMT 5
1: Oh, that makes sense. Thank you for sharing it. 2: I didn't mean the method. Rather, do you think the tiger can catch all the wolves before either tiring or succumbing to injuries? 1: Your Welcome 2: Appears I misunderstood, my mistake. Do I think so? Probably. I just don't really believe it would need to. But in the end we both have our views on the subject. Perhaps leave it there? What do you mean by wouldn't need to? This is a hypothetical fight to the death |
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Post by smedz on Sept 22, 2019 23:57:57 GMT 5
1: Your Welcome 2: Appears I misunderstood, my mistake. Do I think so? Probably. I just don't really believe it would need to. But in the end we both have our views on the subject. Perhaps leave it there? What do you mean by wouldn't need to? This is a hypothetical fight to the death What I mean is that given that a tiger is powerful enough to kill a wolf with one blow, it's likely the wolves would give it a wide berth, and avoid unnecessary risk. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Sept 23, 2019 0:48:09 GMT 5
What do you mean by wouldn't need to? This is a hypothetical fight to the death What I mean is that given that a tiger is powerful enough to kill a wolf with one blow, it's likely the wolves would give it a wide berth, and avoid unnecessary risk. But this is a death fight, where each side must fight at all costs to win. Who do you favor then? |
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Post by all on Oct 2, 2019 20:11:18 GMT 5
lot depends on what kind of wolves we are talking about. Against Canadian or Siberian wolves Tigress loses. Even if battle would be relatively close. But that would be so only if wolves were willing to fight to the death.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Oct 2, 2019 20:58:28 GMT 5
allThese fights are always assumed to be to the death
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Post by all on Oct 2, 2019 21:48:35 GMT 5
Then the grey wolves win. If they have no choice but to continue the fight until ether tigress its dead or all of them are. In argument between 4 wolves and 1 male grizzly bear. At first wolves chased away the bear then bear came back and chased them away. The bear ultimately won that argument. But wolves hunt in packs loss of one member would significantly diminish wolves ability to hunt. Plus wolves are quite attached to each other despite their status mentality. That is why loss of anyone would be quite serious to the wolves. Nonetheless 4 wolves were able to make a serious enough challenge to male grizzly bear. Here there are 5 wolves and 1 tigress. If wolves had to fight even if most of them was to die their combined power and intelligence would prevail.
There are types of dogs that in packs of 4 can kill a tiger. Those dogs are very strong. But wolves are formidable as well and like I said there is total of 5 of them.
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