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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 19, 2019 4:07:20 GMT 5
Well, maybe I thought a bit too far outside the box? Livyatan vs Velociraptor on land would be WAY better* *No, seriously |
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Post by rock on Jun 19, 2019 16:33:41 GMT 5
Well, maybe I thought a bit too far outside the box? Livyatan vs Velociraptor on land would be WAY better* *No, seriously isnt Deinonychus stronger than velociraptor? if so that would be more of a mismatch in favor of megalodon. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 19, 2019 17:25:33 GMT 5
Well, maybe I thought a bit too far outside the box? Livyatan vs Velociraptor on land would be WAY better* *No, seriously isnt Deinonychus stronger than velociraptor? if so that would be more of a mismatch in favor of megalodon. Eh...true However, since you proclaim (and I guess others may too) that this is unfair, I'll give Livyatan vs Velociraptor a go and see what the outcome is |
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Post by elosha11 on Jun 28, 2019 11:53:31 GMT 5
Man, some of these threads are ... bizarre. There's simply no way for deinonychus to "kill" Megalodon on dry land, it probably couldn't even pierce Megalodon's skin, or it would at least have an extremely difficult time doing so. Megalodon would suffocate far sooner than the tiny dinosaur could do anything other than take a couple mouthfuls. On the other hand, the shark would be dying in agony, both from lack of oxygen and from its own crushing weight on land. The last thing on its mind would be the tiny pricking bites the dino was inflicting. On the other hand, I think the dino would be in far more danger of the shark thrashing and crushing it or shattering its bones/internal injuries, rather than the shark's bite. The shark, assuming its lack of oxygen hadn't already weakened it too far, could merely thrash its tail of several tons, and demolish the dino. Or it could thrash and roll and crush the dino. Or if deinonychus was so foolhardy to get near the shark's mouth, it could obviously be obliterated, but I doubt it would be an act of predation/or defense, more likely a gnashing of the shark's teeth in pain and desperation. The shark would be in agony and the dino would, if very careful, have a feast of scavenging for a month. Kind of a cruel scenario, but that's why these threads exist, I guess.  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 28, 2019 11:59:56 GMT 5
Man, some of these threads are ... bizarre. There's simply no way for deinonychus to "kill" Megalodon on dry land, it probably couldn't even pierce Megalodon's skin, or it would at least have an extremely difficult time doing so. Megalodon would suffocate far sooner than the tiny dinosaur could do anything other than take a couple mouthfuls. On the other hand, the shark would be dying in agony, both from lack of oxygen and from its own crushing weight on land. The last thing on its mind would be the tiny pricking bites the dino was inflicting. On the other hand, I think the dino would be in far more danger of the shark thrashing and crushing it or shattering its bones/internal injuries, rather than the shark's bite. The shark, assuming its lack of oxygen hadn't already weakened it too far, could merely thrash its tail of several tons, and demolish the dino. Or it could thrash and roll and crush the dino. Or if deinonychus was so foolhardy to get near the shark's mouth, it could obviously be obliterated, but I doubt it would be an act of predation/or defense, more likely a gnashing of the shark's teeth in pain and desperation. The shark would be in agony and the dino would, if very careful, have a feast of scavenging for a month. Kind of a cruel scenario, but that's why these thread exist, I guess. Did I think a bit too far outside of the box for this one? I could make another thread with Utaharaptor or a larger dinosaur (and the other one, Livyatan vs Velociraptor, is not really 'fair' by anyone's standards at this point, it seems). Anyhow, you do have a point about Deino only inflicting superficial scratches, so in the strictest sense of AvA, we've got ourselves a stalemate |
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Post by elosha11 on Jun 28, 2019 12:14:54 GMT 5
Man, some of these threads are ... bizarre. There's simply no way for deinonychus to "kill" Megalodon on dry land, it probably couldn't even pierce Megalodon's skin, or it would at least have an extremely difficult time doing so. Megalodon would suffocate far sooner than the tiny dinosaur could do anything other than take a couple mouthfuls. On the other hand, the shark would be dying in agony, both from lack of oxygen and from its own crushing weight on land. The last thing on its mind would be the tiny pricking bites the dino was inflicting. On the other hand, I think the dino would be in far more danger of the shark thrashing and crushing it or shattering its bones/internal injuries, rather than the shark's bite. The shark, assuming its lack of oxygen hadn't already weakened it too far, could merely thrash its tail of several tons, and demolish the dino. Or it could thrash and roll and crush the dino. Or if deinonychus was so foolhardy to get near the shark's mouth, it could obviously be obliterated, but I doubt it would be an act of predation/or defense, more likely a gnashing of the shark's teeth in pain and desperation. The shark would be in agony and the dino would, if very careful, have a feast of scavenging for a month. Kind of a cruel scenario, but that's why these thread exist, I guess. Did I think a bit too far outside of the box for this one? I could make another thread with Utaharaptor or a larger dinosaur (and the other one, Livyatan vs Velociraptor, is not really 'fair' by anyone's standards at this point, it seems). Anyhow, you do have a point about Deino only inflicting superficial scratches, so in the strictest sense of AvA, we've got ourselves a stalemate Nah, it's all good. I mean this is the Sci Fi/Fantasy section. Everything's supposed to be outside the box.  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 28, 2019 12:17:01 GMT 5
Did I think a bit too far outside of the box for this one? I could make another thread with Utaharaptor or a larger dinosaur (and the other one, Livyatan vs Velociraptor, is not really 'fair' by anyone's standards at this point, it seems). Anyhow, you do have a point about Deino only inflicting superficial scratches, so in the strictest sense of AvA, we've got ourselves a stalemate Nah, it's all good. I mean this is the Sci Fi/Fantasy section. Everything's supposed to be outside the box. Good. Apparently that's not the case on Carnivora. I remember a suggestion for Otodus vs Acrocanthosaurus (or something similar) on my part was badly rejected |
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Post by elosha11 on Jun 28, 2019 12:22:06 GMT 5
Changed my vote to Meg. Deinonychus has zero chance of killing the shark. The shark, while not trying to kill the dino and probably hardly even aware of its presence, could pose a high risk to its tiny "opponent" due to its desperate thrashing and rolling, and biting.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 28, 2019 12:28:08 GMT 5
Changed my vote to Meg. Deinonychus has zero chance of killing the shark. The shark, while not trying to kill the dino and probably hardly even aware of its presence, could pose a high risk to its tiny "opponent" due to its desperate thrashing and rolling, and biting. Well the most likely result would probably be Meg dying from non-Deinonychus-related reasons, but I agree that Megalodon has a much bigger chance of killing Deinonychus than vice versa, and I think I'll vote for it also |
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Post by Infinity Blade on Jun 28, 2019 16:04:15 GMT 5
Nah, it's all good. I mean this is the Sci Fi/Fantasy section. Everything's supposed to be outside the box. Good. Apparently that's not the case on Carnivora. I remember a suggestion for Otodus vs Acrocanthosaurus (or something similar) on my part was badly rejected I mean, unless you're stipulating that they're in a "plasma-like environment" where the shark can magically swim, effectively fly, in the air (well, those are still ridiculous, but in their own way and they're made under a different context), that is indeed a rather ridiculous topic for obvious reasons. And then there's this. The three-orders-of-magnitude-smaller dromaeosaurid is on top of it having an extremely difficult time biting and clawing through the thing. If the shark makes any violent jerking reactions, the dinosaur can just bolt away and either continue to fail at killing the shark with its teeth and claws or not do anything for a while, watching the shark that's on land get progressively crushed under its own weight (which will kill it long before the Deinonychus ever does). Edit: suffocate (I assumed the "crushed under its own weight" thing based off of beached whales, but I've just seen this disputed for beached whales, although I can't imagine how their bodies could actually support their weight on land and not have adverse effects on their bodies). The intention behind this thread was a fight, but...it's not really a fight. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 28, 2019 19:54:39 GMT 5
Good. Apparently that's not the case on Carnivora. I remember a suggestion for Otodus vs Acrocanthosaurus (or something similar) on my part was badly rejected I mean, unless you're stipulating that they're in a "plasma-like environment" where the shark can magically swim, effectively fly, in the air (well, those are still ridiculous, but in their own way and they're made under a different context), that is indeed a rather ridiculous topic for obvious reasons. And then there's this. The three-orders-of-magnitude-smaller dromaeosaurid is on top of it having an extremely difficult time biting and clawing through the thing. If the shark makes any violent jerking reactions, the dinosaur can just bolt away and either continue to fail at killing the shark with its teeth and claws or not do anything for a while, watching the shark that's on land get progressively crushed under its own weight (which will kill it long before the Deinonychus ever does). Edit: suffocate (I assumed the "crushed under its own weight" thing based off of beached whales, but I've just seen this disputed for beached whales, although I can't imagine how their bodies could actually support their weight on land and not have adverse effects on their bodies). The intention behind this thread was a fight, but...it's not really a fight. Well, I think the default assumption is that those kinds of extremities WAAAAY outside the box (such as the Amphicoelias vs Blue Whale thread Taipan brought back from the old site) take place in a neutral environment, but if you want the exact details, I think it's in the early November pages of the Carnivora Record Attempt (either that or it has been deleted). So, what you're saying about this match is that it's basically a one-sided slaughterfest in the Deino's favor and it has no real way of losing unless it lets Megalodon crush it? Ooof.... One last thing, by the way: If you see a dinokid101 account on Carnivora, that is NOT me. I suspect Taipan made it just to make me look bad, similar to what he did with Fragilimus335 some years back |
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Post by Infinity Blade on Jun 28, 2019 20:06:31 GMT 5
Even if this isn't ridiculous in that the shark will just die on land by default, meaning the Deinonychus doesn't even have to do anything to "win" (and don't get me wrong, it is), it's still also ridiculous in that Deinonychus is pitted against something three orders of magnitude larger than itself. Just...no. No to this, and no to the Livyatan vs. Velociraptor on land thread.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 29, 2019 4:58:17 GMT 5
Even if this isn't ridiculous in that the shark will just die on land by default, meaning the Deinonychus doesn't even have to do anything to "win" (and don't get me wrong, it is), it's still also ridiculous in that Deinonychus is pitted against something three orders of magnitude larger than itself. Just...no. No to this, and no to the Livyatan vs. Velociraptor on land thread. Seems I had forgotten to respond to this. Looking back, don't you think Megalodon AT LEAST has a higher chance to kill its foe than vice versa? And nobody replied to the 2nd so I can edit it |
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Post by Infinity Blade on Jun 29, 2019 7:33:30 GMT 5
Even if this isn't ridiculous in that the shark will just die on land by default, meaning the Deinonychus doesn't even have to do anything to "win" (and don't get me wrong, it is), it's still also ridiculous in that Deinonychus is pitted against something three orders of magnitude larger than itself. Just...no. No to this, and no to the Livyatan vs. Velociraptor on land thread. Seems I had forgotten to respond to this. Looking back, don't you think Megalodon AT LEAST has a higher chance to kill its foe than vice versa? And nobody replied to the 2nd so I can edit it If it can actually land a blow or bite on it, sure. But again, considering this is a what? 50t shark that's been beached... I'm not necessarily opposed to it having that chance, but if so, refer back to my previous post. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 29, 2019 9:01:17 GMT 5
Seems I had forgotten to respond to this. Looking back, don't you think Megalodon AT LEAST has a higher chance to kill its foe than vice versa? And nobody replied to the 2nd so I can edit it If it can actually land a blow or bite on it, sure. But again, considering this is a what? 50t shark that's been beached... I'm not necessarily opposed to it having that chance, but if so, refer back to my previous post. Yeah.....mostly, as I said earlier, Megalodon gets killed due to non-Deinonychus related reasons HOWEVER if Deino attacks the gills vigorously, both have a very good chance of killing the other |
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