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Post by sam1 on Jul 22, 2019 0:07:49 GMT 5
Yes.
And it's a fact that obviously gets twisted by meat eaters just so they can ease their conscience.
This thread is just an example.
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Post by rock on Jul 22, 2019 4:26:29 GMT 5
Yes. And it's a fact that obviously gets twisted by meat eaters just so they can ease their conscience. This thread is just an example. how are they morally surperior? , all they do is not eat meat , yet even if they dont eat meat they still have to kill plants to eat them , im not a meat eater , i am an omnivore , and they have the right to practive what they want but not eating meat does not make them morally surperior , plants have feelings and feel pain too , if we had to worry about everything we kill , we would not be able to eat . also if you beilive vegans are morally surperoior , you are saying animals have more rights than people , because animals get to eat meat , yet we cannot , by that logic |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jul 22, 2019 6:33:49 GMT 5
sam1
Why are vegans so much better than omnivores? That sounds very generalized.
Some people, like myself, have food allergies that make it very hard to safely be vegan, and/or do not have access to a lot of good quality plant based food. Does that make us automatically inferior?
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Post by sam1 on Jul 22, 2019 15:23:55 GMT 5
Plants aren't being humiliated and tortured for their whole life just to satisfy someone's taste.
I'll just leave it at this:
p.s. WATCH TILL THE END
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Post by rock on Jul 22, 2019 16:47:09 GMT 5
Plants aren't being humiliated and tortured for their whole life just to satisfy someone's taste. I'll just leave it at this: p.s. WATCH TILL THE END so basically the logic here is that , if the organism doesnt feel pain , its ok to kill it , even if they do not eat meat , it does not mean they are morally surperior because someone else will eat it anyways . animals suffer , humans suffer , plants suffer , its a part of life , their has to be death to be life , its part of nature and humans are part of nature too. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jul 22, 2019 18:35:05 GMT 5
Plants aren't being humiliated and tortured for their whole life just to satisfy someone's taste. I'll just leave it at this: p.s. WATCH TILL THE END I acknowledge that there are some less savvy ways of raising animals for meat, but my only point is that it is often impractical or otherwise unhealthy for certain people to go vegan, such as myself, due to food allergies and/or limited access to good quality vegan food. Does that make us automatically inferior? And yes, there is good ways for meat as well: Example: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/25/veganism-intensively-farmed-meat-dairy-soya-maize |
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Post by sam1 on Jul 22, 2019 18:53:43 GMT 5
Plants aren't being humiliated and tortured for their whole life just to satisfy someone's taste. I'll just leave it at this: p.s. WATCH TILL THE END so basically the logic here is that , if the organism doesnt feel pain , its ok to kill it , even if they do not eat meat , it does not mean they are morally surperior because someone else will eat it anyways . animals suffer , humans suffer , plants suffer , its a part of life , their has to be death to be life , its part of nature and humans are part of nature too. Actually, the video REALLY says everything there is to say about it. Further debate is superfluous. If you buy any industrially produced meat, there's no excuse, end of story. The same goes for dinosauria. Again, don't expect me to debate this any further. If you do, I'll take it that you either deliberately chose to not understand the video, or you haven't watched it whole at all. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jul 22, 2019 19:06:16 GMT 5
so basically the logic here is that , if the organism doesnt feel pain , its ok to kill it , even if they do not eat meat , it does not mean they are morally surperior because someone else will eat it anyways . animals suffer , humans suffer , plants suffer , its a part of life , their has to be death to be life , its part of nature and humans are part of nature too. Actually, the video REALLY says everything there is to say about it. Further debate is superfluous. If you buy any industrially produced meat, there's no excuse, end of story. The same goes for dinosauria.I do have access to grass fed meat, pastured meat, etc. That can easily be purchased instead of industrially produced meat, and I HAVE purchased it several times in the past. But that wasn't quite the point. My only point was, what is it that makes non-vegans so automatically inferior if they themselves can't go vegan without putting their health at serious risk? |
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Post by rock on Jul 22, 2019 21:38:41 GMT 5
so basically the logic here is that , if the organism doesnt feel pain , its ok to kill it , even if they do not eat meat , it does not mean they are morally surperior because someone else will eat it anyways . animals suffer , humans suffer , plants suffer , its a part of life , their has to be death to be life , its part of nature and humans are part of nature too. Actually, the video REALLY says everything there is to say about it. Further debate is superfluous. If you buy any industrially produced meat, there's no excuse, end of story. The same goes for dinosauria. Again, don't expect me to debate this any further. If you do, I'll take it that you either deliberately chose to not understand the video, or you haven't watched it whole at all. humans arent made to be vegan , its in our biologically insticnts to want to eat meat and to get rid of your biological insticnts is not natrual , humans are predators and it is normal to eat meat , i honestly dont care what happens to the animal before it got on my dinner plate because even if i went vegan , plants would still have to suffer for me to eat , plants and animals suffer for me to eat anyways , so i dont care because anyway i look at it i am killing something , its nature , you can choose to ignore it and pretend the world is all pink and fluffy and nothing suffers and we all live forever , or you can man up and accept that things die for us to eat and we will oneday die and our bodies will be absorbed into the soil , the grass will take nutrients from the soil and the cow will eat the grass and we will eat the cow and the cycle will go on and on and on . |
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