Western Gorilla vs Deinonychus

[DinosaurMichael]

Aug 31, 2013 19:51:22 GMT 5 Runic said:

Aug 31, 2013 19:31:54 GMT 5 DinosaurMichael said:

All Raptor's hunted in packs. So it's quite obvious Deinonychus would of as well.

You do realise you said that to someone that knows far more on the subject than you? Please... stop trying to act like your smarter than me on deinonychus. Youll just wound up feeling stupid.
And deinonychus is not a raptor. It's a dromaeosaurid.

Sorry I wasn't trying to be smarter than you. And the name Raptor is just a another name for a Dromaeosaurid.

[Runic]

Aug 31, 2013 19:58:22 GMT 5 DinosaurMichael said:

Aug 31, 2013 19:51:22 GMT 5 Runic said:

You do realise you said that to someone that knows far more on the subject than you? Please... stop trying to act like your smarter than me on deinonychus. Youll just wound up feeling stupid.
And deinonychus is not a raptor. It's a dromaeosaurid.

Sorry I wasn't trying to be smarter than you. And the name Raptor is just a another name for a Dromaeosaurid.

The name "raptor" refers to Aves. The term for deinonychus is dromaeosaurid. They only gave velociraptor the name "raptor" in Jurassic park because most people don't know what a dromaeosaurid is or even how to pronounce it.

[creature386]

Aug 31, 2013 19:47:48 GMT 5 Derdadort said:

Can someone please post those evidences for Velociraptor?

However, even assuming that Seebacher (2001) was correct in suggesting that Protoceratops had a relatively low mass in proportion to its length, it seems unlikely that a single adult Velociraptor (i.e. IVPP V16138) could have consumed almost all of the flesh on an adult Protoceratops (i.e. IVPP V16137) during a single bout of feeding. Group hunting has been suggested for dromaeosaurs in the past (Ostrom, 1990 — though not Velociraptor explicitly) so there is also the possibility that a group was feeding on the carcass. Accordingly, the inference of late-stage feeding in the mandibular region further implies either that at least one individual Velociraptor was scavenging upon a carcass that had already been partly defleshed, or that several individuals of Velociraptor killed the Protoceratops and consumed so much of the readily accessible flesh of the limbs and torso that they proceeded to attack the head. The two possibilities are impossible to distinguish with certainty, although the occurrence of only two shed crowns may suggest that IVPP V16138 is more likely to represent a single scavenging individual than the sole evidence of a predatory group (tooth crowns are very common at inferred dromaeosaur kill sites — see Ostrom, 1990; Roach and Brinkman, 2007). Furthermore, it is possible that even a carcass as small as about 25 kg (including bones and other inedible tissues) would have provided a significant meal for an entire pack of small dromaeosaurs. Scavenging is more likely than predation to involve late-stage feeding, since scavengers often encounter carcasses that have already been partly denuded of flesh.

"New evidence for a trophic relationship between the dinosaurs Velociraptor and Protoceratops"
By David Hone, Jonah Choiniere, Corwin Sullivan, Xing Xu, Michael Pittman and Qingwei Tan
You can download the PDF here:
www.researchgate.net/publication/223596814_New_evidence_for_a_trophic_relationship_between_the_dinosaurs_Velociraptor_and_Protoceratops/file/79e4150f507c2b8d5b.pdf

[Derdadort]

But this isn't really a clear evidence for pack hunting. Sounds more like the situation between Deinonychus and Tenontosaurus.

[DinosaurMichael]

Aug 31, 2013 20:00:50 GMT 5 Runic said:

Aug 31, 2013 19:58:22 GMT 5 DinosaurMichael said:

Sorry I wasn't trying to be smarter than you. And the name Raptor is just a another name for a Dromaeosaurid.

The name "raptor" refers to Aves. The term for deinonychus is dromaeosaurid. They only gave velociraptor the name "raptor" in Jurassic park because most people don't know what a dromaeosaurid is or even how to pronounce it.

Oh.

[Venomous Dragon]

Aug 31, 2013 20:00:50 GMT 5 Runic said:

Aug 31, 2013 19:58:22 GMT 5 DinosaurMichael said:

Sorry I wasn't trying to be smarter than you. And the name Raptor is just a another name for a Dromaeosaurid.

The name "raptor" refers to Aves. The term for deinonychus is dromaeosaurid. They only gave velociraptor the name "raptor" in Jurassic park because most people don't know what a dromaeosaurid is or even how to pronounce it.

True but i always use modern raptors when refering to birds of prey to avoid confusions.

[Runic]

Sept 1, 2013 1:34:37 GMT 5 Venomous Dragon said:

Aug 31, 2013 20:00:50 GMT 5 Runic said:

The name "raptor" refers to Aves. The term for deinonychus is dromaeosaurid. They only gave velociraptor the name "raptor" in Jurassic park because most people don't know what a dromaeosaurid is or even how to pronounce it.

True but i always use modern raptors when refering to birds of prey to avoid confusions.

Well your smarter than most when it comes to animals

[Venomous Dragon]

Sept 1, 2013 1:39:53 GMT 5 Runic said:

Sept 1, 2013 1:34:37 GMT 5 Venomous Dragon said:

True but i always use modern raptors when refering to birds of prey to avoid confusions.

Well your smarter than most when it comes to animals

why thank you.

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The gorilla wins IMO. But it will suffer from great injuries.

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Deinonychus loses, but not without inflicting a wound.

[dinosauria101]

I hate to be blunt, but Deinonychus is now 100 kg, and this seems to be a predator prey relationship.