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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 16, 2020 17:38:03 GMT 5
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Post by kekistani on Jan 16, 2020 23:14:56 GMT 5
win for wallago,albeit close. 6.5/10 for the catfish.
Also giant snakeheads aren't found in the US
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 23:25:11 GMT 5
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 17, 2020 0:02:59 GMT 5
win for wallago,albeit close. 6.5/10 for the catfish.
Also giant snakeheads aren't found in the US
I was under the assumption they overlapped in their natural range. As per crocuta's post, however, they do seem to be. I think this is close, maybe 6./0 wallago. @ophiophagushannah, AFAIK they are similar to predatory perciformes. That should in turn be similar to Asian redtails, and it may be an aggressor here. |
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Post by kekistani on Jan 17, 2020 0:07:53 GMT 5
Those are individual fish found, and the consenus is that they were released.
Wallago are incredibly aggressive. Apart from some of the freshwater puffers and the Red Terror I have yet to find a freshwater fish that matches it in sheer agression (and especially one of similar size). They have fast, powerful strikes, shredding teeth, and eyes bigger than their stomach. No idea about Asiatic RTCs.
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Post by kekistani on Jan 17, 2020 0:09:52 GMT 5
win for wallago,albeit close. 6.5/10 for the catfish.
Also giant snakeheads aren't found in the US
I was under the assumption they overlapped in their natural range. As per crocuta's post, however, they do seem to be. I think this is close, maybe 6./0 wallago. @ophiophagushannah , AFAIK they are similar to predatory perciformes. That should in turn be similar to Asian redtails, and it may be an aggressor here. They do; i'm just saying that they aren't invasive in the US like the post claims. Individuals have been found but it is generally agreed that they are released pets/food fish and there is no breeding population. They're about as invasive as boa constrictors in Hawaii: Specimens are caught but they were released by people and originated from captivity. There is no breeding population |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 17, 2020 0:13:08 GMT 5
That's actually quite a good thing I suppose; the last thing the US needs is another snakehead invasion.
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Post by kekistani on Jan 17, 2020 0:17:25 GMT 5
That's actually quite a good thing I suppose; the last thing the US needs is another snakehead invasion. "invasion"
If people just ate the damn things they population wouldn't have skyrocketed. Stuff tastes better than 90% of all other freshwater fish anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 0:17:42 GMT 5
Those are individual fish found, and the consenus is that they were released.
Wallago are incredibly aggressive. Apart from some of the freshwater puffers and the Red Terror I have yet to find a freshwater fish that matches it in sheer agression (and especially one of similar size). They have fast, powerful strikes, shredding teeth, and eyes bigger than their stomach. No idea about Asiatic RTCs.
Ahh thanks for the clarification! Learning so much about fish from you. I always thought the red terror wasn't as aggressive as the parachromis cichlids or the umbee but I could be wrong. Many of the large catfish tend to be pretty aggressive like the wallagos, the hemibagrus, as well as zungaro. I've heard bad things about the wallagos, but I thought leeri was the bad one. |
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Post by kekistani on Jan 17, 2020 0:19:27 GMT 5
Those are individual fish found, and the consenus is that they were released.
Wallago are incredibly aggressive. Apart from some of the freshwater puffers and the Red Terror I have yet to find a freshwater fish that matches it in sheer agression (and especially one of similar size). They have fast, powerful strikes, shredding teeth, and eyes bigger than their stomach. No idea about Asiatic RTCs.
Ahh thanks for the clarification! Learning so much about fish from you. I always thought the red terror wasn't as aggressive as the parachromis cichlids or the umbee but I could be wrong. Many of the large catfish tend to be pretty aggressive like the wallagos, the hemibagrus, as well as zungaro. I've heard bad things about the wallagos, but I thought leeri was the bad one. Well mabye mine was a freak. It killed stuff larger and (supposedly) more agressive than it.
ALL the wallago are "the bad ones", Wallago Leeri is just the one that gets big enough to eat people.
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Post by kekistani on Jan 17, 2020 0:24:06 GMT 5
Those are individual fish found, and the consenus is that they were released.
Wallago are incredibly aggressive. Apart from some of the freshwater puffers and the Red Terror I have yet to find a freshwater fish that matches it in sheer agression (and especially one of similar size). They have fast, powerful strikes, shredding teeth, and eyes bigger than their stomach. No idea about Asiatic RTCs.
Ahh thanks for the clarification! Learning so much about fish from you. I always thought the red terror wasn't as aggressive as the parachromis cichlids or the umbee but I could be wrong. Many of the large catfish tend to be pretty aggressive like the wallagos, the hemibagrus, as well as zungaro. I've heard bad things about the wallagos, but I thought leeri was the bad one. I do know (and have heard stories about ) large catfish being aggressive. Most bagrid catfish tend to be very agressive for their size (or at least very predatory) and IIRC Theodore Roosevelt had stories about Zungaro eating children (?) |
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Post by kekistani on Jan 17, 2020 0:25:38 GMT 5
By the way, the only reason this fight is one I consider "close" is because the Giant snakehead is so large. It's just no match for something as agressive as Wallago.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 0:43:51 GMT 5
Ahh thanks for the clarification! Learning so much about fish from you. I always thought the red terror wasn't as aggressive as the parachromis cichlids or the umbee but I could be wrong. Many of the large catfish tend to be pretty aggressive like the wallagos, the hemibagrus, as well as zungaro. I've heard bad things about the wallagos, but I thought leeri was the bad one. I do know (and have heard stories about ) large catfish being aggressive. Most bagrid catfish tend to be very agressive for their size (or at least very predatory) and IIRC Theodore Roosevelt had stories about Zungaro eating children (?) I could totally see a jau do that. They get to red tail size and yea chunky www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMmqumwkHFw |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 17, 2020 0:45:37 GMT 5
That's actually quite a good thing I suppose; the last thing the US needs is another snakehead invasion. "invasion"
If people just ate the damn things they population wouldn't have skyrocketed. Stuff tastes better than 90% of all other freshwater fish anyway.
Yeah, it's a damn shame. They're delicacies in Asia, but most Americans are too scared to try new things. At least there's a little demand. But more should be needed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 0:46:32 GMT 5
If the wallago is anything like a rtc, the snakehead is food
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