Fragillimus335
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Post by Fragillimus335 on Jul 13, 2013 7:41:26 GMT 5
So fragillimus enlarged Spino's size/skull because nowhere I've read Hartman saying that the total length of its skull is 190 cm. Don't hold a grudge. Try measuring it yourself. |
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Post by Grey on Jul 13, 2013 8:01:36 GMT 5
I did better, I've asked directly to Hartman, you have the response above.
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Post by Fragillimus335 on Jul 13, 2013 19:52:00 GMT 5
I did better, I've asked directly to Hartman, you have the response above. I don't think he is measuring to the back of the sagittal crest. |
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Post by theropod on Jul 13, 2013 20:03:45 GMT 5
Most likely he isn't (and I wouldn't suggest that measurement either since it is only that long due to the hypertrophy of that part)
His skull seems perfectly compatible with Dal Sasso or my own work, the only major difference is the nuchal crest. Frankly, whether that velociraptor is 1,9m or 2m doesn't matter.
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Post by Grey on Jul 13, 2013 20:19:47 GMT 5
Addtional comment from Hartman regarding this :
I presume they measured to the outside of the black lines, and then must have played a bit loose when they measured the scale bar.
Clearly I need to put up a blog post on how to measure my skeletals.
I get people coming to me, sometimes several times a month, asking about "wrong" measurements on my skeletals because they aren't measuring them the right way...so I guess I know what to use as a filler post while I finish the spino calculations.
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Post by theropod on Jul 13, 2013 20:25:21 GMT 5
I made sure not to measure the black outlines, especially since those are extensive in his Spinosaurus' head.
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Post by Grey on Jul 13, 2013 20:27:17 GMT 5
Sill there is something odd, but I think this is the raptor which is virtually too short, not the two behemoths. At the worst, this is an average raptor, no big deal here.
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Post by theropod on Jul 13, 2013 20:28:36 GMT 5
Keep in mind the spine curvature, and that this only bases on observation.
In life, a Velociraptor, even the 2m specimen, wouldn't be 2m long.
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Post by Grey on Jul 13, 2013 20:33:14 GMT 5
I keep that in mind that's why I would suggest to fragillimus to simply give another size listing for the raptor, this is not the models which are wrong but the size figure of the raptor.
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Post by theropod on Jul 13, 2013 20:34:58 GMT 5
No, the figure is axial lenght, for all of them, just like the figures for T. rex and Spinosaurus. They are all right, but not the tip-tip lenghts you can see in the scale.
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Post by blaze on Jul 13, 2013 23:05:40 GMT 5
What raptor are you talking about?
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Post by Grey on Jul 13, 2013 23:24:22 GMT 5
The Velociraptor in the comparison fragillimus posted.
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Post by blaze on Jul 14, 2013 1:06:59 GMT 5
I completely missed the existence of the previous page, I thought that I had read it already haha.
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Post by Vodmeister on Jul 15, 2013 10:42:54 GMT 5
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