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Post by Grey on Nov 9, 2013 18:18:12 GMT 5
If Daedon lived today, I claim it would be the most dangerous large mammal for humans, if it was as agressive as it seems to have been.
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Post by theropod on Nov 9, 2013 18:22:39 GMT 5
Plus its among the few terrestrial mammals that actually have the capability of biting the body of an adult human.
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Post by Grey on Nov 9, 2013 18:44:14 GMT 5
Any estimate of the bite force in that monster ?
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Post by creature386 on Nov 9, 2013 18:51:11 GMT 5
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Post by theropod on Nov 9, 2013 19:42:55 GMT 5
Knowing the bite force of peccaries would be interesting too!
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Post by blaze on Nov 10, 2013 2:15:25 GMT 5
From Lucas et al. 1998:  "Dinohyus" is CM 1594, with that table and what they said that the holotype of D. shoshonensis is onl slightly smaller than "Dinohyus", it seems it's size was not exceptional for the species. The teeth of "Ammodon" YPM 12040/12041 are anything from ~2 to ~13% larger and those of TMM 40224-1 are from ~6 to ~19% larger. Hartman's Lythronax... I hadn't realized it, but I have already seen that skeletal before the paper was published, some others must have too, it has been on his website from some time as Bistahieversor sp. that's why he refused to tell me in which specimen it was based when I asked some weeks ago, it wasn't Bistahieversor at all! haha, I've just checked his website and there's a new skeletal labelled Bistahieversor sealeyi, which has the correct skull. |
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Post by Fragillimus335 on Nov 12, 2013 9:50:20 GMT 5
Wait, how much bigger are the specimens you are talking about? That one already looks like its approaching a ton and it has the skull size of an Allosaurus... I think the largest are close to 7 feet at the shoulder, ~2 meters. |
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Post by blaze on Dec 4, 2013 6:29:29 GMT 5
 Couldn't find evidence of bigger specimens... |
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Post by theropod on Dec 4, 2013 21:47:55 GMT 5
That makes me seriously wonder where they pulled that widespread 9-10m figure from. The animal above is already quite elongate, it'd have to be eel-shaped in order to be much longer...
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Post by creature386 on Dec 4, 2013 22:11:58 GMT 5
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Post by blaze on Dec 5, 2013 4:07:05 GMT 5
The too small head was speculation on my part, I'm not really sure of it.
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Post by blaze on Dec 5, 2013 13:57:08 GMT 5
 This should exemplify why I think Sarcosuchus is smaller than what Sereno et al. estimated, the depth of this reconstruction is based on a photo of lolong, my previous version looked more normal because I made it that way with that objective but in doing so I made it unrealistically slender so I changed it, this one is also 11.7m like Sereno et al. estimated. The size of Deinosuchus is based on Farlow et al. (2005) and its proportions are based on the largest American alligator on Woodward et al. (1995). Lolong's proportions and dimensions are from measurements, figures and photos in Britton et al. (2012). Yes, I used the same body for all of them but the body/tail proportions are not the same, Sarcosuchus, as estimated by Sereno et al. has a tail that's 51% of total length, that of Deinosuchus is 48.5% and that of Lolong is 53.8%. And yes, I have nothing better to do, I was bored and made this haha. |
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Post by Grey on Dec 5, 2013 19:42:59 GMT 5
Blaze, I highly appreciate your rigorous comparisons works since a long.
I wonder if you could perform similar things with Livyatan or Carcharocles on occasion, even though I'm not sure you have focused a lot on that field.
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Post by blaze on Dec 5, 2013 23:41:36 GMT 5
Thank you  I've tried doing one some time ago, but didn't procced when I couldn't get one paper on a Carcharocles skeleton and that of Zygophyseter but I think I have material to do it anyway, I have a paper with an skeletal reconstruction of a 6m Cretoxyrhina, will that be a good basis for the outline of Carcharocles? |
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