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Post by dinosauria101 on Aug 4, 2019 21:29:28 GMT 5
Oh...my memory of that thread was just a tad rusty.
About 12 tons, that is what I thought the conclusion was. As I said, I am now open to a maximum Triceratops anywhere from 9 to 12 tons
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Post by Verdugo on Aug 4, 2019 21:43:44 GMT 5
The third comment from the top down in the link you posted is a one-liner not even posted by Hartman himself, searching for "2.5" also doesn’t return any result on that page. With the new deviantart layout there are no page numbers for comments anymore. But I’m happy to take your word for it if you are sure he wrote the skull is supposed to be 2.5m long. Well i don't know why you are unable to see it. Anyway, i guess i should just post a screenshot then.  I hope it's pretty clear now, unless you're telling me that Hartman does not run his Devianart account... Considering that you said Hartman's largest specimen already had a 1.3m femur (give or take some because of the low resolution of the images), it seems like the 3m tall Triceratops is up in the air now, isn't it? |
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Post by theropod on Aug 4, 2019 21:46:26 GMT 5
Well, deviantart has been showing with a very different layout for me lately, and if there’s any way of turning it back to the old one, I don’t know it. But it’s interesting to see that blaze also measured a lower figure.
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Post by jdangerousdinosaur on Aug 4, 2019 22:16:04 GMT 5
Sue with Scotty  Wow is these are accurate depictions, those two are profoundly different, not only in measurements and proportions but the skeletal structures as well. So many differing details. Goes to show that extrapolating from a single specimen is just not the way to go. |
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Post by jdangerousdinosaur on Aug 4, 2019 22:18:20 GMT 5
Yeah Tyrannosaurus individuals tend to vary in one way or another just compare Stan with cm9380 stan  cm9380  pretty differnt when compared together. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Aug 4, 2019 22:22:56 GMT 5
Sue vs the paratype of Mamenchisaurus sinocanadorum  |
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Post by jdangerousdinosaur on Aug 4, 2019 22:50:26 GMT 5
Spinosaurus FSAC KK 11888  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Aug 4, 2019 23:08:43 GMT 5
Average vs average - Triceratops vs Dacentrurus  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Aug 5, 2019 0:12:42 GMT 5
12 Smilodon populator vs Mapusaurus - average vs average  Bear in mind the carnosaur is twice the weight of all the cats together |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Aug 5, 2019 17:33:00 GMT 5
 Average Columbian mammoth vs half-grown OMNH 1670 Apatosaurus |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Aug 5, 2019 17:59:17 GMT 5
Largest short faced bear vs Pete 3 the Daspletosaurus  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Aug 5, 2019 22:18:07 GMT 5
 Dromaeosaurus vs bobcat |
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Post by sam1 on Aug 6, 2019 15:27:54 GMT 5
sam1 You think so? As far as individual variation between theropod specimens goes, these are actually quite similar, especially if you consider the skeletals were done by different people, but also in terms of their measurements and proportions. Individuals of T. rex have a far far wider scope of variation than between these two. Look how much other T. rex specimens differ, even in restorations done by the same person: img00.deviantart.net/124d/i/2015/106/b/4/don_t_mess_with_t__rexes_by_scotthartman-d7t58oi.jpg Maybe, but that Sue and Scotty comparison still stands out here because they are both shown complete. Sue appears to have more massive skull and neck, while having longer yet less voluminous fibula and tibia. Also, there are differing features on the pelvic bone, cervical and lumbar vertebra, and some other details. I suppose some of them are gender related but neither depiction in your link shows such difference in the pelvic region as is between Sue and Scotty. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Aug 6, 2019 15:37:44 GMT 5
 American mastodon vs Supersaurus - max vs max |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Aug 6, 2019 16:32:34 GMT 5
Average vs average - Euoplocephalus vs Dacentrurus  |
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