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Post by Infinity Blade on Mar 10, 2016 2:40:56 GMT 5
Suspensory ligaments also help with stability in giraffes ( link), although I'm not sure if this is a feature that all gracile-limbed ungulates use to stay up.
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Post by An Goldish Jade on Mar 10, 2016 13:38:11 GMT 5
The robustness of the legs, when compared to the length of the legs, as well as the comparison of the robustness of the leg to the height of the body, as well as the area of the food that is contacting with ground, combined with area of the animals body, affects balance far more greater then the structure of the bone. And if Goldish Jade(where did the extra letter of "f" come from is an question) said in a Lion vs Buffalo thread "lion kills giraffe, so buffalo lose" then sure enough, all of you have an high chance of saying "but giraffe is more unstable", so why saying giraffe is not unstable at here?
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Post by creature386 on Mar 10, 2016 20:26:20 GMT 5
And if Goldish Jade(where did the extra letter of "f" come from is an question) I misread your name, sorry.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Mar 10, 2016 20:43:24 GMT 5
The robustness of the legs, when compared to the length of the legs, as well as the comparison of the robustness of the leg to the height of the body, as well as the area of the food that is contacting with ground, combined with area of the animals body, affects balance far more greater then the structure of the bone. And if Goldish Jade(where did the extra letter of "f" come from is an question) said in a Lion vs Buffalo thread "lion kills giraffe, so buffalo lose" then sure enough, all of you have an high chance of saying "but giraffe is more unstable", so why saying giraffe is not unstable at here? oh look, more fallacy. yay.
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Post by theropod on Mar 10, 2016 21:19:01 GMT 5
And if Goldish Jade(where did the extra letter of "f" come from is an question) I misread your name, sorry. I didn’t btw, I just adopted "goldfish" because typing out "An [sic] Goldish Jade" is awkward. Goldfish: Thank you, that’s a lot better already. Now, wouldn’t you agree that the relative size is at least equally important? In other words, it becomes more difficult to knock over an opponent that is larger, even if that opponent’s built is inherently less suited for stability?
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Post by An Goldish Jade on Mar 12, 2016 8:51:05 GMT 5
We can also say-even if giraffe is bigger, because its design, so even smaller opponent could knock it over, and because it is smaller, therefore lower to the ground, and the giraffe being much higher, and having little of its body area making contact with the ground, and the only area it have in contact with the ground, is connected to its huge body, by thin and long legs, it will still be very vulnerable, to low level chargeing attack, even by smaller opponents.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Mar 13, 2016 8:02:36 GMT 5
mmm instead of hypothetical conjectures why don't we post evidence of these sorts of things occuring?
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Post by An Goldish Jade on Mar 13, 2016 9:15:20 GMT 5
Because of this, explanation of how do giraffe have more balance please, since this question is not answered by you, thought if you have no eyesight, therefore cannot see how both animals appearance is, then I understands why you do not regard it as evidence.
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Post by malikc6 on Mar 13, 2016 9:25:41 GMT 5
The giraffe wins here. Simply too large, but I can see why a person would think the buffalo could knock the giraffe to the ground, but their legs are stronger than they appear. A successful charge from a Cape Buffalo would be pretty severe though.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Mar 13, 2016 11:16:11 GMT 5
Because of this, explanation of how do giraffe have more balance please, since this question is not answered by you, thought if you have no eyesight, therefore cannot see how both animals appearance is, then I understands why you do not regard it as evidence. dear lord.... it's a little early for strawmen no? i didn't say the giraffe was "more balanced" but the assertion that the giraffe is an unbalanced animal in nature is blatantly false -- the information posted by ausar is evidence of this. your "evidence" and the case you're trying to make, are rudimentary at best. try harder.
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Post by An Goldish Jade on Mar 15, 2016 13:51:43 GMT 5
An attempt of diminish evidence, those are clearly more reliable, then data, so they are easy to understand, do not mean they are unreliable(thought they are actually more reliable).
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Mar 15, 2016 21:38:55 GMT 5
uh, what? what evidence have you even come closely to providing? saying i'm "dismissing" your 'evience' is fallacious, but keep it up sunshine, it's pretty entertaining.
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Post by An Goldish Jade on Mar 17, 2016 13:36:10 GMT 5
The evidence have been posted, and Ceratodromeus is good at making up things by saying that I claims Ceratodromeus is dismissing the evidence, thought I said Ceratodromeus is diminishing the facts, by saying they are basic, thought they are actually more reliable, then datas.
Just because I mention the disadvantage first, don't mean there is no advantage for it,the height and the long legs could also become an advantage, as it allows Giraffe to launch kicking assaults from an further distance, and its height could allow it to stomp onto the Buffalo's Head and Neck.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Mar 17, 2016 20:56:11 GMT 5
The evidence have been posted, and Ceratodromeus is good at making up things by saying that I claims Ceratodromeus is dismissing the evidence, thought I said Ceratodromeus is diminishing the facts, by saying they are basic, thought they are actually more reliable, then datas. Just because I mention the disadvantage first, don't mean there is no advantage for it,the height and the long legs could also become an advantage, as it allows Giraffe to launch kicking assaults from an further distance, and its height could allow it to stomp onto the Buffalo's Head and Neck. are you being serious right now? you've posted no evidence, but plenty of your incoherent rambling. Te evidence that has been provided in this this thread however, that giraffes are not unstable, unbalanced animals by nature, has already been posted by ausar -- but you neglected to read it didn't you? lol yes data is far better then your words. This is not the point, you made an unsubstantiated(and rather vague) claim and then further took a stance of ignorance deciding to say i was "ignoring your evidence" when none was posted.
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Post by An Goldish Jade on Mar 19, 2016 10:00:15 GMT 5
I was not communicating with you, I also have not said that you were ignoring my evidence, I would like you to point out when I said that, and I have not said you are dismissing the evidence. The second one are clearly based on nothing, as I have not claimed the words are reliable.
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