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Post by malikc6 on May 7, 2014 3:42:25 GMT 5
We also need to acknowledge the fact that just about every large african animal is 2-3 times faster than a healthy human. If things got bad they could simply run away! If the head is severed the zombie is effectually dead, same with crushed legs and torsos. A brain is worthless without a body to move. In real life zombies would be a minor annoyance, as their bodies would be decomposed to the point of uselessness in a matter of about 5-7 days. It would be: all animals of Africa vs a billion insane/hungry humans for one week, then all humans die. The animals would do fine. Actually, it would take a lot longer for the body to decay. According to "Zombie Survival Guide", it can take months to even a few years before the body finally decays up to the point where the zombie can no longer move. Even if a zombie has crushed limbs, it will still try to come at you with whatever it has left. The animals could run away, but the problem would be stamina. Lets say a massive zombie horde was chasing after a herd of buffalo and they all ran away, well the buffalo have to stop at some point. Zombies don't. They don't get tired. The animals would eventually have to stop running and fight. Hiding wouldn't be much of an option either since according to "Zombie survival guide", zombies for whatever reason have excellent hearing and smelling. Even if these functions weren't working, for some unknown reason, they can still hunt. The guide says they use an unknown sense to trace prey. Even zombies with no eyes can still hunt. I guess you could call it the 6th sense. In the book, it also says the zombie virus could kill just about any animal but in this scenario, it won't since it wouldn't be fair to just get bitten once and then die afterwards.
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Post by creature386 on May 7, 2014 20:52:16 GMT 5
Well, they could run as long away as they are too far away for even zombie senses. They may have limited stamina, but many of the herbivores in Africa can run for a pretty long time.
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Post by Fragillimus335 on May 7, 2014 22:46:13 GMT 5
We also need to acknowledge the fact that just about every large african animal is 2-3 times faster than a healthy human. If things got bad they could simply run away! If the head is severed the zombie is effectually dead, same with crushed legs and torsos. A brain is worthless without a body to move. In real life zombies would be a minor annoyance, as their bodies would be decomposed to the point of uselessness in a matter of about 5-7 days. It would be: all animals of Africa vs a billion insane/hungry humans for one week, then all humans die. The animals would do fine. Actually, it would take a lot longer for the body to decay. According to "Zombie Survival Guide", it can take months to even a few years before the body finally decays up to the point where the zombie can no longer move. Even if a zombie has crushed limbs, it will still try to come at you with whatever it has left. The animals could run away, but the problem would be stamina. Lets say a massive zombie horde was chasing after a herd of buffalo and they all ran away, well the buffalo have to stop at some point. Zombies don't. They don't get tired. The animals would eventually have to stop running and fight. Hiding wouldn't be much of an option either since according to "Zombie survival guide", zombies for whatever reason have excellent hearing and smelling. Even if these functions weren't working, for some unknown reason, they can still hunt. The guide says they use an unknown sense to trace prey. Even zombies with no eyes can still hunt. I guess you could call it the 6th sense. In the book, it also says the zombie virus could kill just about any animal but in this scenario, it won't since it wouldn't be fair to just get bitten once and then die afterwards. Zombie guides are fake and sensationalistic. If we assume these are truly re-animated corpses and not magic corpses, they aren't going to last more than a week and still have muscles to move. And how would they have excellent hearing and smelling with the brain being the only functioning organ? In real life zombies would be an easy problem to handle.
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Post by creature386 on May 7, 2014 23:48:55 GMT 5
As this is the science fiction zone, we could theoretically put fantasy creatures vs reality. This would allow some magic virus.
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Post by malikc6 on May 8, 2014 10:05:11 GMT 5
Actually, it would take a lot longer for the body to decay. According to "Zombie Survival Guide", it can take months to even a few years before the body finally decays up to the point where the zombie can no longer move. Even if a zombie has crushed limbs, it will still try to come at you with whatever it has left. The animals could run away, but the problem would be stamina. Lets say a massive zombie horde was chasing after a herd of buffalo and they all ran away, well the buffalo have to stop at some point. Zombies don't. They don't get tired. The animals would eventually have to stop running and fight. Hiding wouldn't be much of an option either since according to "Zombie survival guide", zombies for whatever reason have excellent hearing and smelling. Even if these functions weren't working, for some unknown reason, they can still hunt. The guide says they use an unknown sense to trace prey. Even zombies with no eyes can still hunt. I guess you could call it the 6th sense. In the book, it also says the zombie virus could kill just about any animal but in this scenario, it won't since it wouldn't be fair to just get bitten once and then die afterwards. Zombie guides are fake and sensationalistic. If we assume these are truly re-animated corpses and not magic corpses, they aren't going to last more than a week and still have muscles to move. And how would they have excellent hearing and smelling with the brain being the only functioning organ? In real life zombies would be an easy problem to handle. Zombie guides try to make a zombie that is realistic as possible. I think the guide I read said something about the brain having a connection with hearing and smelling. I highly doubt they would last just a week for them to stop functioning. It would actually depend on the outbreak for it to be easy or not. Some zombie guides argue that zombies are more likely to walk or fast walk towards their prey rather than run like others say. Maybe slow movers would be easy because it would take forever for them to build up a massive horde that is a threat to everything. A slow moving zombie would also have trouble killing someone, as they have virtually no balance and can be pushed over with ease. At best a zombie can kill someone who is in a deep state of shock and fear and can't respond, or someone who has a physical disability. The only advantage that slow movers have, is that it would take a while before people realize what's happening. The virus would start with one person, and that person dies and reanimates. He slowly walks towards someone or a group of people, and the original thought is "this guy is on drugs or crazy" and get away from him, but when he finally does grab and bite an unsuspecting person, they are now infected. 23 hours later, they now die and reanimate and it would keep happening. It would likely be a small horde and would be shot down by law enforcement. The only real way they can build up an actual threat is if people weren't noticing what was happening, but people are stupid like that. Also, slow movers would fail against animals. Imagine a slow mover walking towards a bear. It would get torn apart within seconds. Even a big horde would have trouble killing an animal like that. Runners (aka Fast moving zombies ) would not be easy at all because they can build a massive horde in a short amount of time. If not, they can kill at a faster rate. They would run at you biting and grabbing viciously. Even if you fought back and got away, you're infected and going to die within 23 hours (or even quicker) and then reanimate. Unlike slow movers who usually need multiple zombies to kill their prey, a runner can kill a person handedly. They are more aggressive and use a lot more force for they exert themselves to the fullest. Once more, it wouldn't take them very long to make a horde and law enforcement in this case would be at risk. Slow movers can be killed with no problem since they're just walking towards you. However if they are running, that will cause panic. They would be running through the bullets, not to mention that not all of the shots are going to hit the head. Some zombies would manage to get close enough to the police and attack them and eventually they would be overwhelmed. Runners would be a challenge to animals. No animal other than the rhino and elephant would stand a chance against a horde of even just 20 Runners. I don't even think a bear could do it. Animals that are human size or close to human size would have trouble with probably just one or two runners. The runner would be attacking viciously and would not stop no matter how hard the animal fought back. It wouldn't know it has to kill the brain. I see it trying to go for the throat bite which would be ineffective, and the zombie would still keep scratching, biting, and gouging. The animal would run away and if not, get exhausted and probably eventually killed. Overall, it depends on the zombie and the scenario.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 12:41:27 GMT 5
Putrefaction and dessication destroys the zombies in a few weeks.
Before that point though, those factors would weaken and impair the zombies, so the wildlife won't have much of a problem with even the supposed "runners" as their tissues would get stiffer/softer.
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Post by malikc6 on May 9, 2014 3:10:03 GMT 5
It can take quite a while before zombies rot. Months to years actually. The more food they eat, the longer it takes for them to rot.
I would think that its more likely that zombies walk or "jog" at prey because of rigor mortis. However it also depends how fast the person reanimates. If they turn instantly like in "World war Z" where they turned into zombies within just a few seconds (didn't die, more like mutated) or "Dawn of the Dead" where you die and reanimate within a few seconds. You're body basically can still run. If you die and reanimate in 23 hours, it's likely the zombie will walk or "jog" at their prey.
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Post by Fragillimus335 on May 9, 2014 3:20:57 GMT 5
It can take quite a while before zombies rot. Months to years actually. The more food they eat, the longer it takes for them to rot. I would think that its more likely that zombies walk or "jog" at prey because of rigor mortis. However it also depends how fast the person reanimates. If they turn instantly like in "World war Z" where they turned into zombies within just a few seconds (didn't die, more like mutated) or "Dawn of the Dead" where you die and reanimate within a few seconds. You're body basically can still run. If you die and reanimate in 23 hours, it's likely the zombie will walk or "jog" at their prey. It doesn't take a year for a dead body to rot, only a week or two max. Eating would have no effect on a dead corpses health. Every zombie would be a shambling mass of goo 7 days in.
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Post by malikc6 on May 9, 2014 3:27:12 GMT 5
Once again, that is what most zombie guides state. I don't get it much either. Climate plays a role. They would decay faster in Africa because of the heat. In a colder area, they would decay longer.
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Post by An Goldish Jade on Mar 5, 2016 4:40:33 GMT 5
Zombies are different in many fiction related movies, games etc. so what is they capablity in this? Before further info is available, decision is unable to be made.
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Post by malikc6 on Mar 5, 2016 5:03:00 GMT 5
Zombies are different in many fiction related movies, games etc. so what is they capablity in this? Before further info is available, decision is unable to be made. I listed the scenario when I made this thread two years ago.
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Post by An Goldish Jade on Mar 5, 2016 9:35:04 GMT 5
Aware of that, which is why I said inefficient detail, what I mean is, what is the zombie in this scenario most like, Resident Evil? World War Z? Dawn of the dead?
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