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Post by theropod on Jun 23, 2014 16:32:11 GMT 5
Damn, its really incredible how dumb some humans can be.
In this case, it frankly seems like for a man to even exist, or at least to have an opinion, is a crime to them. I really can’t make sense of those feminists.
PS: WTF? Whose business is it to care about how I pee? How sick does a legal system have to be to even be able to care about that?
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Post by coherentsheaf on Jun 23, 2014 16:43:41 GMT 5
Damn, its really incredible how dumb some humans can be. In this case, it frankly seems like for a man to even exist, or at least to have an opinion, is a crime to them. I really can’t make sense of those feminists. Stop mansplaining. Yeah, thats a thing.
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Post by malikc6 on Jun 23, 2014 21:16:08 GMT 5
What confuses me is how these people even enforce the toilet laws. What do they have police officers in there watching you go? That is nearly impossible to enforce unless they used cameras.
Another issue I have is that a long time ago, males who liked anime were often looked down upon, especially by females. Anime eventually got more popular the creators of good shows started getting richer and richer. Women and girls all of a sudden claimed they liked anime. The same exact thing has been happening with video games and a lot of people now are complaining that these shows and games are becoming made for primarily a female audience. Women now and back then started complaining how the shows were depicting them. You know like the fan service and stuff. Video games and anime are being feminized more than ever now. Nintendo pretty gave the middle finger to the original male fans and switched to the female fans.
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Post by creature386 on Jun 23, 2014 23:24:28 GMT 5
Maybe the high rape rate there is the reason for the exaggerated protection of women: From Wikipedia. Canada's rape rate is not noticeable in comparison, so you can't really compare them. High rape rates logically mean fighting rape and that often goes hand in hand with feminism.
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Post by malikc6 on Jun 23, 2014 23:32:38 GMT 5
Don't forget that a lot of men are coming out of prison due to false rape claims. False rape claims happen just as much if not more than real rape. Remember that football player that recently got out of prison because his ex girlfriend claimed he raped her?
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Post by creature386 on Jun 23, 2014 23:36:33 GMT 5
That probably also happens in other countries than Sweden, this image was for comparative purposes. Maybe the government there is aware of this (and pretty embarrassed because Sweden normally doesn't have great crime problems) and tries to fight it. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree that the laws are completely ridiculous. It's like with death penalty, America is one of the few developed countries to have it, yet Canada and most of Europe have lower crime rates. Strict laws can be surprisingly inefficient and unneeded.
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Post by malikc6 on Jun 24, 2014 0:23:59 GMT 5
Do these politicians even know what they're doing these days??
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Post by creature386 on Jun 24, 2014 0:57:47 GMT 5
Probably not. But I have no idea how to fight such a high rape rate either. Maybe they should admit that they can't do anything, but nobody wants to hear that.
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Post by theropod on Jun 24, 2014 2:34:42 GMT 5
I think it’s rather that the high rape rate in Sweden is due to a bias in recording? I’d have trouble to think of a reason why rape should be so much more common in Sweden than in other countries, more likely that the society there simply gives the issue more attention and/or its easier to get through with false accusations.
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Post by coherentsheaf on Jun 24, 2014 3:35:55 GMT 5
I think it’s rather that the high rape rate in Sweden is due to a bias in recording? I’d have trouble to think of a reason why rape should be so much more common in Sweden than in other countries, more likely that the society there simply gives the issue more attention and/or its easier to get through with false accusations. Exact rape prevalence numbers are exceedingly hard to obtain. For one there is a clear disconnect between what researchers call rape and wheter the victims consider it rape. Further, unfortunately, researchers themselves are sometimes unable to define rape in a way so that all victims are counted. For example in the NISVS 2010, the largest and most comprehensive review of sexual violence in america we have a very large number of (male) victims that were forcibly enveloped (In the last year dataset, the number was similar to the number of female rape victims). However despite being a completely analogous crime to forced penetration (i.e. male on female rape), it was neither shown in ay of the executive summaries, nor was it called rape by the researchers.
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Post by Vodmeister on Jun 24, 2014 14:48:03 GMT 5
The account below is rape, according to Sweden. A man and woman had consent sex, and she did not get pregnant. However, because she wanted him to use a condom and he didn't, that somehow counts as sexual molestation. The only two purposes of a condom is preventing pregnancy and STD's , and she didn't get either, so what is the problem? If a case like that passes as rape, then it's only to be expected that the rape incidences in Sweden will be ridiculously high. www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/24/how-is-rape-defined-around-the-world_n_1823272.html
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Post by creature386 on Jun 24, 2014 17:52:39 GMT 5
OK, I admit defeat here, I now researched for myself:
The example of rape statistics in Sweden-about three times higher when compared to other countries in the European Sourcebook-is used to explain what factors can influence statietics. Statistical, legal and substansive factors are to be taken into account. The author shows that changes in statistical routines, the legal definition of tape and changes over time all influence the statistica in a substansive way.
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The range of acts which constitute rape has been successively widened (most recently in 1998), to include acts similar to intercourse, the mere threat of violence, and the removal of the requirement of an attempt to resist on the part of the victim.
Hanns von Hofer Crime statistics as constructs: The case of Swedish rape statistics. European Journal on Criminal Policy and Research 8:77-89.
I never thought that a difference in definition can have such a ridiculous impact.
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Post by Runic on Jun 24, 2014 21:18:05 GMT 5
A 24 year old woman got pregnant by a 14 year old in Georgia.
What y'all gotta say to that feminist? Lol
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Post by theropod on Jun 24, 2014 22:26:09 GMT 5
OK, I admit defeat here, I now researched for myself: The example of rape statistics in Sweden-about three times higher when compared to other countries in the European Sourcebook-is used to explain what factors can influence statietics. Statistical, legal and substansive factors are to be taken into account. The author shows that changes in statistical routines, the legal definition of tape and changes over time all influence the statistica in a substansive way.And: The range of acts which constitute rape has been successively widened (most recently in 1998), to include acts similar to intercourse, the mere threat of violence, and the removal of the requirement of an attempt to resist on the part of the victim.Hanns von Hofer Crime statistics as constructs: The case of Swedish rape statistics. European Journal on Criminal Policy and Research 8:77-89. I never thought that a difference in definition can have such a ridiculous impact. If it is that kind of change in definition, that’s not surprising. It seems for a man in Sweden even coming anywhere near a woman is risky business. And the principle of "consensual rape" is plain ridiculous. It isn’t even feminist, from feminists one would expect that they think a woman has the ability to decide for herself whether she wants to sleep with someone. In this case, "talking someone into bed" is considered a rape, which frankly sounds as if women where children who were unable to say "No".
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Post by malikc6 on Jun 25, 2014 1:22:40 GMT 5
A 24 year old woman got pregnant by a 14 year old in Georgia. What y'all gotta say to that feminist? Lol That ain't nothing new. There have been plenty of cases of females getting impregnated by minors and there are also cases of male minors actually having to pay child support. Imagine the outcry if it had been reversed. A 24 year old male gets a 14 year old pregnant and she has to pay him for child support. I swear its a war on males. That's how I see it.
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