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Post by elosha11 on Jan 18, 2016 22:19:21 GMT 5
I think this picture must be distorted in some fashion, but it still suggests a very large, perhaps enormous great white.  |
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Post by Grey on Jan 19, 2016 1:07:52 GMT 5
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Post by elosha11 on Jan 19, 2016 23:39:53 GMT 5
One of the follow up articles said the police crew trying to drive the shark away from shore thought it was about 7 meters long, based on their 6 meter boat. |
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Post by elosha11 on Jan 27, 2016 0:05:44 GMT 5
On January 19, I added a second picture of the first Mediterranean shark in the second post of this profile thread. I will post it again here.  The shark looked enormous in the first picture, but in this picture you can truly appreciate its size by comparing it to the man cutting open its belly. Given his position, he's obviously very close to/alongside the shark, although I'm sure he'd be a little taller in the picture if he moved directly in front of it. Still, just the visible portion of the shark absolutely dwarfs him. The visible portion alone looks like its about 5 meters and when you add both the remaining back end and the caudal fin, there would be at least another meter or two. This shark is 6 meters at a minimum in my mind and probably well above that. 6.5-7 meters would be my best guess. I'll be adding a few other documented large GW sharks to the profile hopefully this week. |
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Post by full on Jan 27, 2016 1:31:17 GMT 5
On January 19, I added a second picture of the first Mediterranean shark in the second post of this profile thread. I will post it again here. The shark looked enormous in the first picture, but in this picture you can truly appreciate its size by comparing it to the man cutting open its belly. Given his position, he's obviously very close to/alongside the shark, although I'm sure he'd be a little taller in the picture if he moved directly in front of it. Still, just the visible portion of the shark absolutely dwarfs him. The visible portion alone looks like its about 5 meters and when you add both the remaining back end and the caudal fin, there would be at least another meter or two. This shark is 6 meters at a minimum in my mind and probably well above that. 6.5-7 meters would be my best guess. I'll be adding a few other documented large GW sharks to the profile hopefully this week. Christ, that's give me goosebumps thinking I was swimming in the waters of the Mediterranean only a few months back. Amazing creatures. |
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Post by elosha11 on Jan 28, 2016 9:42:54 GMT 5
Estimated 19-22 foot great white.  |
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Post by elosha11 on Jan 28, 2016 9:50:03 GMT 5
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Post by elosha11 on Jan 28, 2016 10:13:37 GMT 5
From: 1.bp.blogspot.com/-WXv2tm__UTU/URE5RZuJcxI/AAAAAAAACJ4/q0BeM9lHbjM/s1600/19-1+Llamia.jpg  Translation of accompanying textWe must move forward sixty years, to meet the huge sea monster that collect chronic, with the news that jumps to the front page and continued on 5 Alicante Information Journal, dated August 11, 1946, and reviews in the national press (ABC, page 34 of the August 11, La Vanguardia, page 4 of 11 August), with the headline "sea-monster captured in Tabarca" well documented even with photographic evidence of Francisco Sanchez, one of whose pictures accompanied the news. Worth transcribing the full text: In the trap of Tabarca, of "Lloret Llinares and Company", he was captured yesterday morning a sea monster, species tabarqueños call between fishermen called "llamia". The splendid specimen entered the trap at eight o'clock, in pursuit of a band of tuna. He was killed after putting almost dry, and pontoon at that island has highlighted the port authority for the construction of the shelter carried out there hoisted the formidable "fishing" to the auxiliary motor of the trap, which led to our port at noon. About forty men were involved in the operations of landing big fish. His weight dropped the extraordinary figure of 1,790 kilos, and its dimensions were six meters long and two and a half in diameter at the widest part. Having been admired by numerous onlookers attracted as circulated at the port the news, and as such is edible fish was dismembered, full Vicente Enrique, who paid him 1,200 pesetas for acquiring it. La Vanguardia, August 11, 1946, p. Four. The animal was found extraordinary tuna belly weight of 40 kilos. Such tuna had two bites, one on the side of the tail and one in the head, being swallowed whole by "llamia". His capture was very difficult inside the trap when the animal had broken chunks on the network. A peculiar cite the liver, heavy aside, gave 300 kilos on the scale and have been an appropriate system of crimping industrial facility of, and in the specialized factories, said liver had provided about 100 liters of oil. A full barrel ... Old fishing port told us that for twenty years has not been in Alicante accidental capture of this size. Apparently there was no reflection on Press extraordinary catch in the twenties, but what is apparent, in view of the written description and more demonstrative photographs of Paco Sanchez, is that "llamia" is merely the name in the Valencian sailor slang white shark, also known as shark in our waters. |
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Post by elosha11 on Jan 28, 2016 10:27:09 GMT 5
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Feb 28, 2016 10:48:17 GMT 5
neat photo and account!  ""IslaGuadalupe is well-known for aggregation of great white sharks from August through January each year. From a surface cage on the Solmar V, I was observing five great whites feeding on tuna served up in the water when, out of the blue, a turtle entered the mix. The sharks paid little attention to the turtle until it tried to eat the tuna, at which time the sharks nudged it away from the food. The turtle kept returning to eat the tuna, only to be bumped away several times. Finally, the turtle saw a piece of tuna floating near my surface cage, and started to eat it. "A greatwhite followed, and bumped the #turtle away one final time. When the turtle returned, an exasperated shark grabbed the turtle with its massive jaws and a loud 'crunch' was heard as far down as the 30 foot submersible cage below. The shark then spit the turtle out, and the turtle swam away. Pre-crunch images of the turtle showed that the turtle already had a cracked shell and suggest that this turtle was no stranger to the bite of the great white shark."" link to Novataxon facebook page |
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Post by elosha11 on Mar 8, 2016 23:44:26 GMT 5
Great whites and/or tiger sharks likely attempt to prey on large adult or subadult whale sharks at times. The following link is a research article and pictures of a 5.5 meter subadult whale shark in Australia that had survived a significant shark attack resulting in its dorsal being bitten off and receiving significant bite injuries along its flanks. Based on the bite radius, the researchers estimated the attacker to have been most likely a 4 meter great white or a 3.5 meter tiger shark. The bite mark on the dorsal and one side of the shark were very recent wounds. The shape and tooth marks of the bites eliminated an orca as the attacker. www.researchgate.net/publication/232711174_Shark_attacks_on_a_whale_shark_Rhincodon_typus_Smith_1828_at_Ningaloo_Reef_Western_AustraliaHere's a video link of the same injured whale. Scroll down to the last video. The site claims it to be a great white attacker. www.arkive.org/whale-shark/rhincodon-typus/videos.htmlRecently, new scientist and several other articles reported a find that a 4.5 meter great white shark was found with two whale shark vertebrae in its remains. The size of the vertebrae suggested a whale shark of 8.5 meters. Obviously the question is whether the whale shark was scavenged or directly attacked. Given the size disparity, the article suggests it was more likely as scavenging event. However, the first incident gives some definitive evidence that a smaller great white or tiger shark have been known to attack a whale shark larger than themselves. www.newscientist.com/article/2077291-white-sharks-diet-may-include-biggest-fish-of-all-whale-shark/ |
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Post by elosha11 on Mar 24, 2016 1:28:51 GMT 5
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Post by tripoliraider1975 on Mar 27, 2016 20:14:41 GMT 5
Interesting quote...
"Referente a la longitud máxima que puede alcanzar este tiburón, en el año 1982, el Dr. J. A. Moreno tuvo la posibilidad de observar y hacer una medición aproximada (en pies) a una hembra, de una longitud mínima de entre 8 y 9 metros, desembarcada en Dakar (Senegal). Desgraciadamente, el registro de la talla del individuo observado no tiene ninguna validez científica al no haber podido realizar una biometría correcta del animal, debido a la situación azarosa con los propietarios del ejemplar, ni, consecuentemente, haber podido preparar la correspondiente comunicación. Baste decir que, solamente la mandíbula estaba ya vendida por una suma de 1.000 dólares."
Joan Barrull e Isabel Mate (2002). Tiburones del Mediterráneo. Llibrería El Set-ciènces, Arenys de Mar, p. 153.
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Post by Grey on Mar 28, 2016 1:19:55 GMT 5
Interesting quote... "Referente a la longitud máxima que puede alcanzar este tiburón, en el año 1982, el Dr. J. A. Moreno tuvo la posibilidad de observar y hacer una medición aproximada (en pies) a una hembra, de una longitud mínima de entre 8 y 9 metros, desembarcada en Dakar (Senegal). Desgraciadamente, el registro de la talla del individuo observado no tiene ninguna validez científica al no haber podido realizar una biometría correcta del animal, debido a la situación azarosa con los propietarios del ejemplar, ni, consecuentemente, haber podido preparar la correspondiente comunicación. Baste decir que, solamente la mandíbula estaba ya vendida por una suma de 1.000 dólares." Joan Barrull e Isabel Mate (2002). Tiburones del Mediterráneo. Llibrería El Set-ciènces, Arenys de Mar, p. 153. Maddalena (2001) mentions that case. |
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Aug 18, 2016 9:00:13 GMT 5
Pretty cool footage of a white shark feeding on a seal captured by Greg Skomal
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