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Post by theropod on Oct 22, 2014 23:06:26 GMT 5
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Post by Infinity Blade on Oct 22, 2014 23:50:40 GMT 5
Hooray for the camel-duck-therizinosaur thingy! This animal looks really cool.
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Post by theropod on Oct 22, 2014 23:55:08 GMT 5
It does, right! Far more interesting than a boring upscaled Ornithomimus!
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Post by Infinity Blade on Oct 23, 2014 1:08:20 GMT 5
Damn right.
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Post by Fragillimus335 on Oct 23, 2014 3:35:38 GMT 5
I get lengths of ~12-12.5 meters based on the 994cm humerus.
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Post by blaze on Oct 23, 2014 8:53:33 GMT 5
The limbs might be bent in the z axis in the skeletal, the femur of the larger specimen is supposedly 132cm long but scaling it at that size results in an skull 112cm in premaxilla to quadratojugal rather than 97cm and the humerus at 95cm rather than 100cm.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 14:44:12 GMT 5
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Post by theropod on Oct 23, 2014 22:38:01 GMT 5
I’m adding my mail adress to that list if anyone has access, I haven’t found the paper itself either. However at least the supplement is accessible.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 23:31:34 GMT 5
I’m adding my mail adress to that list if anyone has access, I haven’t found the paper itself either. However at least the supplement is accessible. I have the paper now and have been reading it for a while, I'll send it to you. __________ I get an axial length of around ~12.4 meters for the holotype specimen, scaling using the ~93.8-centimeter humerus.
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Post by theropod on Oct 24, 2014 1:55:14 GMT 5
Thanks! How did you get it?
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Post by theropod on Oct 24, 2014 1:57:18 GMT 5
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Post by theropod on Oct 24, 2014 2:39:47 GMT 5
axial lenght: skull lenght (pmx-q)=97cm==>10.76m TL femur lenght=132cm==> 12.44m TL tibiotarsus lenght=118cm==>12.45-12.75m TL (depends on whether proximal extend of cnemial crest is included) humerus lenght=100cm==>12.98m TL pubic boot lenght=50cm==>~13.05±0.45 TL pubis lenght=114cm==>11.29m TL ischium lenght=111cm==>11.67m TL scalebar=88cm==>12.02m TL (1058px)
skull/femur (skeletal)=0.844 skull/femur (measured)=0.735
All pertain to MPC-D 100/127
I realise there could be prespectivic distortion, but that should, if anything, make stuff that is based on the femur or tibia (which are closer to the viewer than the skull, measured in the transverse plane) smaller, while it ends up larger. The humerus is the exception, as it’s actually fully possible, albeit not very likely, to be quite far from parasagittal.
Something is strange here. But I have to applaud the authors for including their skeletal as in a vector format and hence making it scaleable. They also labeled their measurements remarkably well when it comes to the vertebrae and skull, although that sadly does not extend to the appendicular elements (for example femur lenght, or ilium–in what plane is the latter measured? Perpendicular to the sacrum, or vertically as to fit the skeletal. And is the former maximum lenght?).
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Post by blaze on Oct 24, 2014 3:24:52 GMT 5
I sent it to him but I don't know if he had got it earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 14:36:17 GMT 5
I sent it to him but I don't know if he had got it earlier. I only got it when I received your message, well, you know now. theropod: Deinocheirus skeletal in vector form? Where can you get this? I had to use Inkscape to give it a crisp outline like what I always do when I wanted to enlarge a low-resolution skeletal. And have you seen how they feathered their Deinocheirus reconstruction? I suspect that the typical "large body size = less feathers" reasoning has been used here.
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Post by theropod on Oct 24, 2014 17:44:29 GMT 5
I’ve seen the life reconstruction. I’ve got no problems with the "large body size=>smaller & fewer feathers"-reasoning, but I don’t really like the sharply delimited patches of large feathers opposed to completely featherless skin on the rest. I think if they existed, differences in feather size and density would be more gradual. Just import the first page of the PDF into inkscape and you get the whole page, including the skeletal in vector form, then you can render it in any size you want or directly export an SVG. Or, if you prefer, you can import the page into GIMP (I presume PS has the same feature) in the desired resolution. It luckily wasn’t embedded as a bitmap image as is so often the case. Instead they made use of the skeletal already existing (presumably having been made) as a vector image and the possibility to directly include vector graphics in pdfs. Attachments:deinocheirus.svg (820.66 KB)
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