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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 23, 2019 21:00:16 GMT 5
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Post by 6f5e4d on Dec 23, 2019 21:25:29 GMT 5
Titanoboa wins, it's heavier and can easily coil Plesiosuchus.
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Post by denis on Dec 23, 2019 21:44:44 GMT 5
Plesiosuchus was much faster than the snake. Titanoboa was barely larger than the marine crocodile. My money is on the marine crocodile since this battle will likely take place in deeper water since Marine crocodiles probably did do too well in rivers.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 24, 2019 0:16:19 GMT 5
Interesting variety of opinions.
I think this is around 50/50. Titanoboa can coil without any risk of retaliation, but Plesiosuchus has a very nasty bite and just a few would do serious damage to the snake. Probably whoever makes a move first wins.
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Post by sharkboy101 on Dec 24, 2019 0:22:25 GMT 5
I think the fight would be even in an estuary.
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Post by kekistani on Dec 24, 2019 2:21:59 GMT 5
Giving it to the snake. Titanoboa could ambush the crocodile (which it is larger than in both length and weight by a significant margin) and coil it. Even if the crocodile bites it, it's not going to win the fight with a single blow. Titanoboa can start and end the fight against Plesiosuchus, Plesiosuchus could not do the same to Titanoboa.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 22:47:09 GMT 5
Totally depends where the fight is, if the titanoboa is in an amphibious environment, it should win. If its in the water, it loses bad. Snakes are pretty bad swimmers, they are slow and they leave their flanks really exposed.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 28, 2019 23:52:08 GMT 5
If its morphology resembles a sea snake, it may be able to keep up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 23:53:20 GMT 5
sea snakes are pretty bad swimmers too even though they have a paddled tail to help them swim.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 28, 2019 23:58:42 GMT 5
Well, it IS piscivorous. I think it would probably be decently adept in water, if no more than hunkering at the bottom and waiting for Plesiousuchus to come into range so it could then coil
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Post by kekistani on Dec 29, 2019 9:04:55 GMT 5
hunkering at the bottom and waiting for Plesiousuchus to come into range so it could then coil That's probably what's going to happen to Plesiosuchus. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 29, 2019 21:30:19 GMT 5
hunkering at the bottom and waiting for Plesiousuchus to come into range so it could then coil That's probably what's going to happen to Plesiosuchus. So, we're on the same page with that? I still think this is around 50/50, but you are in agreement that Titanoboa could go to the bottom and adopt a defensive posture to lash out with? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 22:21:49 GMT 5
I think it could do so too, but its mobility underwater could be exploited. The best plan is to lie in defensive position and strike
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 29, 2019 22:41:28 GMT 5
After looking back on it a bit, I don't think Titanoboa and Plesiosuchus are as chanceless in open water and in close quarters at the bottom of the water respectively as this thread may suggest - Plesiosuchus seems to have a decent chance of 'outflanking' a Titanoboa adopting a defensive posture on the bottom, and all Titanoboa really needs to do to constrict Plesiosuchus in open water is just grab it.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 30, 2019 1:09:21 GMT 5
Also, here's a size comp I made On top is Titanoboa (higher end, 14.6 meters TL and just under 13 meters as-is) vs Plesiosuchus (6.8 meters); this is to show what Titanoboa at the bottom of the water adopting a defensive posture would look like against Plesiosuchus In the middle is lower Titanoboa (12.6 meters TL) vs Plesiosuchus (6.8 meters) On the bottom is max Titanoboa (14.6 meters TL) vs Plesiosuchus (6.8 meters) Credit to Prehistoric Wildlife for the top Titanoboa and Blaze for the other 2, and credit to the Plesiosuchus description paper for the drawing  |
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