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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 24, 2019 17:45:28 GMT 5
Columbian Mammoth - Mammuthus columbi  upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Mammuthus_columbi_Sergiodlarosa.jpg/800px-Mammuthus_columbi_Sergiodlarosa.jpgOrder: Proboscidea Family: Elephantidae Height: 3.72 meters Mass: 8.2-10.9 tonnes Diet: Plants Age and Location: 12,500 years ago, Pleistocene epoch, North and Central America Killing apparatus: Tusks One of the largest species of mammoth. Had long, curvy tusks that could sometimes get to over 4 meters. Apatosaurus louisae  svpow.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/apatosaurinae_sp_scene.jpgOrder: Sauropoda Family: Diplodocoidea Length: At least 23 meters, potentially more Mass: 22-26 tonnes, potentially more Age and Location: 150 million years ago, Late Jurassic period, Wyoming, United States Killing apparatus: Tail whip, manual claws, neck bludgeon with keratinous knobs and spikes One of the most well known of sauropods; related to Diplodocus and Brontosaurus. More robust than some of its relatives |
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Post by 6f5e4d on Dec 24, 2019 20:56:23 GMT 5
Apatosaurus is a very clear victor here, obvious size and weight advantage over the Columbian mammoth.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 24, 2019 22:08:24 GMT 5
I'd favor Apatosaurus here as well - a good bit larger, very burly and muscular, and good durability and strength. It could probably take the mammoth out with some bodyslamming or BRONTOSMASHing.
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Post by kekistani on Dec 24, 2019 23:58:14 GMT 5
Curbstomp for the sauropod.
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Post by denis on Dec 25, 2019 0:28:42 GMT 5
This is an easily win for the Apatosaurus. Mammoths aren’t designed to fight something an dinosaur nearly the size of larger than them. Palaeoloxodon Namadicus would be a better opponent IMO.
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Post by kekistani on Dec 25, 2019 1:32:12 GMT 5
This is an easily win for the Apatosaurus. Mammoths aren’t designed to fight something an dinosaur nearly the size of larger than them. Palaeoloxodon Namadicus would be a better opponent IMO. No, it wouldn't-despite on average being around the same weight (22-30 tons) Apatosaurus is just much physically larger than any elephant, which gives it a great advantage. P. Namadicus could go toe-to-toe with the big carnivores or small titanosaurs, but big diplodocoids like this are really out of the league of any proboscidean.
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Dec 25, 2019 2:41:23 GMT 5
The sauropod is just too big and heavy.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 25, 2019 3:46:27 GMT 5
This is an easily win for the Apatosaurus. Mammoths aren’t designed to fight something an dinosaur nearly the size of larger than them. Palaeoloxodon Namadicus would be a better opponent IMO. No, it wouldn't-despite on average being around the same weight (22-30 tons) Apatosaurus is just much physically larger than any elephant, which gives it a great advantage. P. Namadicus could go toe-to-toe with the big carnivores or small titanosaurs, but big diplodocoids like this are really out of the league of any proboscidean.
You are correct - Apatosaurus is quite a large dinosaur, and some specimens would be able to give the big titanosaurs a run for their money. There are the very large Oklahoma apatosaur specimens - of these, OMNH 1670 is one of the most remarkable. It comes from an animal that, scaling from smaller specimens, gives an animal about 29.8 meters and 52 tonnes. And that's not all - it wasn't even fully grown, due to the presence of a neurocentral fusion, and unfused cervical ribs! Based on growth of sauropods like Diplodocus and Giraffatitan, the adult would have been 37 meters and 100 tonnes. There's also OMNH 1331 (a caudal 63% bigger than the same bone in a 22 plus tonne specimen, meaning around 95 tonnes), and OMNH 1329, 40 tonnes with unfused cervical ribs. These are most likely to belong to Apatosaurus ajax due to size and location, plus the fact that we have no adult A. ajax, but if any of these are A. louisae, the mammoth's getting absolutely trounced here. |
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Post by denis on Dec 29, 2019 2:27:24 GMT 5
No, it wouldn't-despite on average being around the same weight (22-30 tons) Apatosaurus is just much physically larger than any elephant, which gives it a great advantage. P. Namadicus could go toe-to-toe with the big carnivores or small titanosaurs, but big diplodocoids like this are really out of the league of any proboscidean.
You are correct - Apatosaurus is quite a large dinosaur, and some specimens would be able to give the big titanosaurs a run for their money. There are the very large Oklahoma apatosaur specimens - of these, OMNH 1670 is one of the most remarkable. It comes from an animal that, scaling from smaller specimens, gives an animal about 29.8 meters and 52 tonnes. And that's not all - it wasn't even fully grown, due to the presence of a neurocentral fusion, and unfused cervical ribs! Based on growth of sauropods like Diplodocus and Giraffatitan, the adult would have been 37 meters and 100 tonnes. There's also OMNH 1331 (a caudal 63% bigger than the same bone in a 22 plus tonne specimen, meaning around 95 tonnes), and OMNH 1329, 40 tonnes with unfused cervical ribs. These are most likely to belong to Apatosaurus ajax due to size and location, plus the fact that we have no adult A. ajax, but if any of these are A. louisae, the mammoth's getting absolutely trounced here. I’m talking about the Apatosaurus species used here. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 29, 2019 16:27:49 GMT 5
You are correct - Apatosaurus is quite a large dinosaur, and some specimens would be able to give the big titanosaurs a run for their money. There are the very large Oklahoma apatosaur specimens - of these, OMNH 1670 is one of the most remarkable. It comes from an animal that, scaling from smaller specimens, gives an animal about 29.8 meters and 52 tonnes. And that's not all - it wasn't even fully grown, due to the presence of a neurocentral fusion, and unfused cervical ribs! Based on growth of sauropods like Diplodocus and Giraffatitan, the adult would have been 37 meters and 100 tonnes. There's also OMNH 1331 (a caudal 63% bigger than the same bone in a 22 plus tonne specimen, meaning around 95 tonnes), and OMNH 1329, 40 tonnes with unfused cervical ribs. These are most likely to belong to Apatosaurus ajax due to size and location, plus the fact that we have no adult A. ajax, but if any of these are A. louisae, the mammoth's getting absolutely trounced here. I’m talking about the Apatosaurus species used here. As am I - the specimens are most likely A. ajax, but if they are A. louisae (the species used here), the mammoth would get obliterated very quickly. |
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