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Post by Venomous Dragon on Sept 28, 2016 9:22:40 GMT 5
I can't believe that I still can't watch a documentary about a war that happened 100 years ago without having to sift through bullshit British propaganda the entire time.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Nov 28, 2016 8:22:02 GMT 5
People believe this fruitloop
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Nov 29, 2016 6:11:34 GMT 5
My older brother believes in the squatch
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 10:38:41 GMT 5
Some people still believe in Social Darwinism.
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Post by creature386 on Oct 28, 2017 14:50:54 GMT 5
The existence of stuff like neo-Nazis of flat Earthers makes one doubt the progress of humanity.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Mar 6, 2019 9:12:46 GMT 5
One thing I cannot believe is legit is this: carnivora.net/polls.php?action=showresults&pid=862How can the elephant win, exactly? And what is even moreso unbelievable is that Greg 'Twatpain' Rhodes was biased enough to vote for the elephant. DISCLAIMER: I do not mean to be offensive or poke fun at anyone in this post, I just find it a bit ridiculous to vote for the elephant in that case.
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Post by creature386 on Mar 6, 2019 15:32:28 GMT 5
Even most of the Mapusaurus supporters agreed that this is a close match. The elephant weighs as much as the three theropods together (and at such scales, size matters) and is better armed than a sauropod, I wouldn't underestimate it.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Mar 6, 2019 15:44:51 GMT 5
I do see where you are coming from, and I agree it would be risky, but what has me perplexed is that the elephant-supporters seem to think the Mapusaurus would just collapse from exhaustion before winning. An elephant of that size would also have been VERY slow, and I do not see how it'd be able to keep up. Maybe I missed something though?
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Post by Infinity Blade on Mar 6, 2019 20:49:07 GMT 5
I think we need to cut those voters some slack. I think those who voted were under the impression that Mapusaurus was only 3 tonnes, considering that's what the OP says, (erroneous) comparisons to lions versus an elephant, and Mammuthus' size scale. So if they all thought the theropods had a combined weight of "only" 9 tonnes compared to a 22 tonne* elephant, I can understand their ambivalence to choose a winner. That said, if we do consider what appears to be a better mass estimate for adult Mapusaurus, the carnosaurs are the clear winners. Each one is more than capable of seriously injuring or killing the elephant by themselves, even if they get curbstomped one-on-one. Now imagine three of these things that not only weigh as much as the elephant combined, but also can't focused on all at one time by the elephant, making it all the easier for them to land bites, take out chunks, exsanguinate, disembowel, all sorts of nasty stuff. Only three African bush elephant-sized, large specialist theropods are needed to kill a 22t P. namadicus more often than not, if not just two. *On that note, I'd like to take this as the opportunity to note that this should be questioned more. The mass estimate rests on the estimated size of a femur fragment all the way from 1834. I'm not discounting it being valid, but again, think: one fragment that had its size estimated all the way from the 1800s (185 years ago to be exact). Is this really much, if at all, different from the snafu regariding Amphicoelias?
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Post by dinosauria101 on Mar 6, 2019 21:31:42 GMT 5
^Based on previous experience with the first two voters, I can confidently say the first two were bias votes, and the third was not backed up. Even if it was 9 tons of Mapusaurus vs 22 tons of elephant, that would be a stalemate, maybe an edge to the pack because the elephant would never be able to catch them. However, it would be a very risky fight due to the disparity in size, and at least 1 could get injured. Having said all that, if we're going to have this debate, shouldn't we do it here? theworldofanimals.proboards.com/thread/1769/palaeoloxodon-namadicus-mapusaurus-roseae-packI did bring it back. And if the 22 ton estimate is not valid and the elephant gets downsized, the 3 Mapusaurus might even cakewalk it.
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Post by theropod on Mar 13, 2019 0:07:30 GMT 5
I just learned that there are actually people who believe they can live off nothing but sunlight, without having to eat or drink anything. Yes. Seriously.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Mar 13, 2019 9:27:31 GMT 5
Those loons people might as well have gone all out. How about the ability to fly when fueled by Earth's sunlight? Along with superhuman strength, speed, and durability? And the ability to blow massively powerful gusts of wind that may or may not be at freezing temperatures? And X-ray vision? And the ability to shoot superheated beams of energy from their eyes?
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Post by dinosauria101 on Mar 13, 2019 9:41:10 GMT 5
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Post by theropod on Mar 14, 2019 1:25:34 GMT 5
But you are the one who made that matchup…
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Post by dinosauria101 on Mar 14, 2019 1:55:17 GMT 5
I know. My point was, even though I made it, I am still having difficulty believing it's possible, therefore it's kind of in the realm of, say, Ripley's Believe It or Not. At least from my point of view.
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