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Post by malikc6 on Mar 3, 2016 13:34:25 GMT 5
This has been done before on other forums, but it seems pretty new here. How would you rate the average trained fighter against a Chimpanzee in a fight? I will tell my opinion later.
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Post by Supercommunist on Mar 3, 2016 22:55:43 GMT 5
The general consensus on CF was that the average chimp was about as strong or somewhat stronger than an a very athletic man. That being said, I favor a trained fighter over a chimp. Chimps are incapable of punching and have never been recorded to kill through strangling. Therefore the only way it would be able to kill a human is by trying to maul one to death with its teeth. While this tactic might easily overwhelm the average man, I think someone who makes a living off fighting could use his superior fighting skills and reach to deter or even kill a chimp.
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Post by malikc6 on Mar 3, 2016 23:37:46 GMT 5
The general consensus on CF was that the average chimp was about as strong or somewhat stronger than an a very athletic man. That being said, I favor a trained fighter over a chimp. Chimps are incapable of punching and have never been recorded to kill through strangling. Therefore the only way it would be able to kill a human is by trying to maul one to death with its teeth. While this tactic might easily overwhelm the average man, I think someone who makes a living off fighting could use his superior fighting skills and reach to deter or even kill a chimp. I favor the fighter to. Chimpanzees as strong as they are (2-3 times a man's strength) are simply just that. Strong. They bite and flail mindlessly. Heck they actually fail to kill one another one on one. There's a instance showing how it took over 12 chimpanzee's to beat one too death. They don't fight. They just attack with no thought whatsoever. That actually has its advantages depending on the fight, but against a trained human, this would completely fail. Many people have argued that the immense strength and durability of the chimp would prevail over a human no matter how trained he is, and this is completely untrue. First off, anything the chimpanzee can do, a human can do to. Biting and gouging the face can be done by a human, especially people amped up on drugs or are just plain crazy. Attacking like that can catch someone off guard and scare them because of how animalistic and vicious it is. Even police officers admit being afraid when having to go up against someone who is willing to bite, scratch, spit, attacking the testicles (chimps do this) etc mindlessly because of how explosive and wild these individuals fight, and police officers are trained to take down assailants. However at the end of the day, the officers still manage to take them down. The 2nd and main reason why a trained fighter should be able to defeat a chimpanzee is because the physiology between and human and a chimp aren't too much different. This means that many of the attacks that the fighter could do on a person may work on a chimpanzee to. I'm not looking too much at the kicks and punches, but rather certain locks and holds that the chimp could not escape from no matter how strong it was. It simply wouldn't know how to escape other than bite and flail. A rear naked choke from a trained person would kill just about any chimp as they have almost no way of escaping. Getting an untrained person into that chokehold is actually not all that hard, so an animal with a similar physiology that simply flails and bites would probably not be as hard as one may think. It's not even just choke holds one could get the chimp into. A trained fighter could get the chimp into an armlock, wristlock, hyper extend the elbow, etc. I can go on and on. This fight is very much like fighting a man on drugs or a man in a mental ward. The main problem for the fighter would't necessarily be the chimp's strength, but the chimp's durability and its bite. I don't think the punches and kicks from an average trained fighter would do too much to a chimp personally, which is why I think going for locks and holds would be much more effective, but to continue, the biting would be a tough time for the fighter as they have been known to bite the face, gouge, and yank, combined with terrible strength and savagery. The difference between a man on drugs and a nutjob is that the chimp has bigger teeth that can do some terrible damage. It can take repeated bites for a man to cause damage to another man with bites, but for a chimp, not much. Even if the man does win, his face likely wouldn't look the same anymore. That would be the fighters biggest problem. Avoiding those teeth. |
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Post by Supercommunist on Mar 4, 2016 0:21:16 GMT 5
I disagree with the notion that punches and kicks would be ineffective against a chimp. I haven't seen anything that indicates that a chimpanzees durability is significantly greater than our own. Professional fighters on the other hand have shown that they are capable of pulling of impressive strikes.
Lets not forget that a chimp is much shorter than a man and it would be relatively easy for a trained fighter to kick one in the head.
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Post by stomatopod on Mar 4, 2016 5:48:44 GMT 5
I do not want to sound like an asshat, but thats just a banana, which is not a tree but some juicy leaves.
But I agree that a kick to the head would be very effective, if actually pulled off.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Mar 4, 2016 7:16:45 GMT 5
I do not want to sound like an asshat, but thats just a banana, which is not a tree but some juicy leaves. But I agree that a kick to the head would be very effective, if actually pulled off. They can also break baseball batshttps://youtu.be/O0_mrDbKlns |
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Post by malikc6 on Mar 4, 2016 11:07:22 GMT 5
I disagree with the notion that punches and kicks would be ineffective against a chimp. I haven't seen anything that indicates that a chimpanzees durability is significantly greater than our own. Professional fighters on the other hand have shown that they are capable of pulling of impressive strikes. Lets not forget that a chimp is much shorter than a man and it would be relatively easy for a trained fighter to kick one in the head. The reason why I questioned that is because of the chimp that was stabbed and shot repeatedly after mauling its owner. It kept attacking despite getting brutally injured. On the other hand, those kicks pretty much convinced me. |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Mar 4, 2016 11:34:42 GMT 5
I disagree with the notion that punches and kicks would be ineffective against a chimp. I haven't seen anything that indicates that a chimpanzees durability is significantly greater than our own. Professional fighters on the other hand have shown that they are capable of pulling of impressive strikes. Lets not forget that a chimp is much shorter than a man and it would be relatively easy for a trained fighter to kick one in the head. The reason why I questioned that is because of the chimp that was stabbed and shot repeatedly after mauling its owner. It kept attacking despite getting brutally injured. On the other hand, those kicks pretty much convinced me. people have also done that |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 10:53:22 GMT 5
Chimpanzee easily beats up the man.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 10, 2019 22:37:26 GMT 5
Yeah, I agree
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