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Post by Apex on May 31, 2016 18:23:21 GMT 5
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Post by Infinity Blade on May 31, 2016 18:36:41 GMT 5
Uhhh...this is...I have no words in all honesty.
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Post by Apex on May 31, 2016 20:25:32 GMT 5
Do you think it will be good for rhino numbers or will poachers proliferate in Australia?
Whats funny is how we are introducing animals to non native countries but are not rewilding animals like the lynx and wolves into Britain
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Post by full on May 31, 2016 21:38:32 GMT 5
Never gonna happen, elephants roaming wild in Denmark? They do realize elephants are one of the most destructive species on earth?
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Post by Ceratodromeus on May 31, 2016 23:13:04 GMT 5
Both of those are quite frankly terrible ideas.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 1, 2016 0:00:04 GMT 5
I agree with creto but there are some merits both species are slow breeders so they will be easy to control.
Australia however needs a top predator more than anything else something that can brig down large animals like horses, boar and camels but have minimal impact on what remains of the natural ecosystem.
Now if only there was an animal that was ecologically indistinguishable from some of Australia's naturally occurring predators in its youth (thus giving all of Australia's naturally occurring animals working defence strategies against it) but when it reached adulthood became a macro predator capable of bringing down all of these harmful introduced large mammals.....oh wait
Dragons for the outback
Australia for the Ora
An introduction that makes so much sense it's almost criminal that you haven't done it already.
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Post by Apex on Jun 1, 2016 0:47:56 GMT 5
Never gonna happen, elephants roaming wild in Denmark? They do realize elephants are one of the most destructive species on earth? I also highly doubt that African elephants will even survive a Scandinavian winter |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 1, 2016 1:02:43 GMT 5
Never gonna happen, elephants roaming wild in Denmark? They do realize elephants are one of the most destructive species on earth? I also highly doubt that African elephants will even survive a Scandinavian winter I highly doubt the Elephants would live outside year round. |
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Post by Apex on Jun 1, 2016 1:17:44 GMT 5
I also highly doubt that African elephants will even survive a Scandinavian winter I highly doubt the Elephants would live outside year round. Then theyre not really being introduced into the wild which makes the whole venture pointless |
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Post by Apex on Jun 1, 2016 1:20:55 GMT 5
I agree with creto but there are some merits both species are slow breeders so they will be easy to control. Australia however needs a top predator more than anything else something that can brig down large animals like horses, boar and camels but have minimal impact on what remains of the natural ecosystem. Now if only there was an animal that was ecologically indistinguishable from some of Australia's naturally occurring predators in its youth (thus giving all of Australia's naturally occurring animals working defence strategies against it) but when it reached adulthood became a macro predator capable of bringing down all of these harmful introduced large mammals.....oh wait Dragons for the outback Australia for the Ora An introduction that makes so much sense it's almost criminal that you haven't done it already. Predator reintroductions dont often go ahead Mostly because their presence can cause a lot of problems, its the same inn the UK where weve been talking about reintroducing wolves, bears and lynx for 20 years There is a lot of public stigma attatched to introducing predators especially species which are capable of predating humans |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 1, 2016 1:51:02 GMT 5
I agree with creto but there are some merits both species are slow breeders so they will be easy to control. Australia however needs a top predator more than anything else something that can brig down large animals like horses, boar and camels but have minimal impact on what remains of the natural ecosystem. Now if only there was an animal that was ecologically indistinguishable from some of Australia's naturally occurring predators in its youth (thus giving all of Australia's naturally occurring animals working defence strategies against it) but when it reached adulthood became a macro predator capable of bringing down all of these harmful introduced large mammals.....oh wait Dragons for the outback Australia for the Ora An introduction that makes so much sense it's almost criminal that you haven't done it already. Predator reintroductions dont often go ahead Mostly because their presence can cause a lot of problems, its the same inn the UK where weve been talking about reintroducing wolves, bears and lynx for 20 years There is a lot of public stigma attatched to introducing predators especially species which are capable of predating humans I'm aware, doesn't make me less correct, besides how can australia look at itself in the mirror knowing it's most dominant predator is just some filthy mongrel. Not that UK is any better in that regard. |
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Jun 1, 2016 10:21:11 GMT 5
here's an article i found today thats somewhat related to the encompassing idea of introducing animals into australia www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/scientist-proposes-enlisting-elephants-rhinos-komodo-dragons-battle-australias-invasive-species.htmltake it as you will not really top notch stuff but yeah. In recent years i've become a proponent for the reintroduction of the ora into australia, mainly because i believe that it could very likely help curve the invasive species that have been there for some time now. Particularly the feral pigs, because these lizards relish them in natural habitats. Now in the above article someone does mention the need for saber tooth cats to eventually be introduced into australia if elephants and rhinos were introduced, and to me that's just fanatical and nonsensical to say the least. Going back to the ora, it would be likely that the varanid would try and prey on the younger animals if elephants and the like had established breeding populations -- because as VD has pointed out these animals are not the most prolific breeders out there., and this would at least control populations to some extent. with this in mind the introduction of these animals(elephants, rhinos, oras) with this bit in mind i guess the idea is a little easier to stomach, but i don't think it would be the best idea still. |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 1, 2016 10:50:11 GMT 5
a side from the odd cattle death i really dont see a down side to introducing ora into Australia.
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Post by full on Jun 3, 2016 4:56:27 GMT 5
I agree with creto but there are some merits both species are slow breeders so they will be easy to control. Australia however needs a top predator more than anything else something that can brig down large animals like horses, boar and camels but have minimal impact on what remains of the natural ecosystem. Now if only there was an animal that was ecologically indistinguishable from some of Australia's naturally occurring predators in its youth (thus giving all of Australia's naturally occurring animals working defence strategies against it) but when it reached adulthood became a macro predator capable of bringing down all of these harmful introduced large mammals.....oh wait Dragons for the outback Australia for the Ora An introduction that makes so much sense it's almost criminal that you haven't done it already. Predator reintroductions dont often go ahead Mostly because their presence can cause a lot of problems, its the same inn the UK where weve been talking about reintroducing wolves, bears and lynx for 20 years There is a lot of public stigma attatched to introducing predators especially species which are capable of predating humans No large predators will ever be reintroduced here in England unfortunately mate, we literally do not have the space, and the space we do have is just dominated with livestock and agricultural practices, any wolves and the like would soon run afoul of local farmers. |
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