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Post by jhg on Oct 20, 2019 12:27:39 GMT 5
Yet they did live with Saltasaurus? Or was it some other abelisaur?
Anyway, it’s a close match where Pelorovis comes out victorious.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Oct 20, 2019 19:53:00 GMT 5
1: Yet they did live with Saltasaurus? Or was it some other abelisaur? 2: Anyway, it’s a close match where Pelorovis comes out victorious. 1: Yes, I think that was another abelisaurid. The only titanosaur remains from where Carno was found are indeterminate. 2: Well it certainly is. I understand you favoring one or the other. |
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Post by denis on Dec 23, 2019 20:44:15 GMT 5
Sorry if this is over two months late, but I think that Pelorovis Antiquus would win. Yes Carnotaurus did hunt large prey but this buffalo has gigantic horns. It could pierce right through the Carnotaurus although they have Gastralia which would prevent them from killing the Carnotaurus but will still injure it. One pierce from the horns and Carnotaurus would retreat.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 23, 2019 20:53:20 GMT 5
Well, I could see Carno being driven away in a natural encounter, but wouldn't those horns be a bit hard to gore with? They are splayed out after all.
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Post by 6f5e4d on Dec 23, 2019 21:20:22 GMT 5
Pelorovis reaches similar weights to Carnotaurus and has better horns, I believe Pelorovis will win the battle.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 24, 2019 0:13:13 GMT 5
Err....not like they're gonna do a horn-lock. Carnotaurus would be more likely to try to outflank and deliver some bites.
It's probably a better idea to do that.
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Post by kekistani on Dec 24, 2019 2:28:57 GMT 5
Err....not like they're gonna do a horn-lock. Carnotaurus would be more likely to try to outflank and deliver some bites. It's probably a better idea to do that. That would expose carnotaurus even moreso to the goring horns. The strategy of bovids is to catch opponents on the horn tips with a jerking motion, not to ram stuff or batter them like elephants or Rhinos. From the front or side Pelorovis has good defense and it can hold its ground to defend itself. |
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Post by Infinity Blade on Dec 24, 2019 2:31:13 GMT 5
Not even elephants or rhinos really ram or batter things.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 24, 2019 3:15:57 GMT 5
Err....not like they're gonna do a horn-lock. Carnotaurus would be more likely to try to outflank and deliver some bites. It's probably a better idea to do that. That would expose carnotaurus even moreso to the goring horns. The strategy of bovids is to catch opponents on the horn tips with a jerking motion, not to ram stuff or batter them like elephants or Rhinos. From the front or side Pelorovis has good defense and it can hold its ground to defend itself. Abelisaurids are very cursorial, and those horns are very long and awkward - probably no more than deterrants at best, not good for goring. Carno would probbaly get around with a little effort. |
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Post by kekistani on Dec 24, 2019 3:35:00 GMT 5
That would expose carnotaurus even moreso to the goring horns. The strategy of bovids is to catch opponents on the horn tips with a jerking motion, not to ram stuff or batter them like elephants or Rhinos. From the front or side Pelorovis has good defense and it can hold its ground to defend itself. Abelisaurids are very cursorial, and those horns are very long and awkward - probably no more than deterrants at best, not good for goring. Carno would probbaly get around with a little effort. That's the issue-Carnotaurus is not maneuverable. Those horns would allow Pelorovis to clip Carno from the front or sides at range, and being 4 legged and the defending animal, it can just turn to face its opponent. |
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Post by kekistani on Dec 24, 2019 3:35:25 GMT 5
Not even elephants or rhinos really ram or batter things. Elephants use their tusks to crush and fling smaller opponents along with goring. |
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Post by Infinity Blade on Dec 24, 2019 3:43:37 GMT 5
Not even elephants or rhinos really ram or batter things. Elephants use their tusks to crush and fling smaller opponents along with goring. Oh, you're talking about smaller animals? My apologies, I have a habit of thinking about animals as big as themselves or larger when I talk about why I don't think elephants ram (stuff like African elephant versus T. rex or the likes). Of course, it's far more doable against smaller opponents. |
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Post by denis on Dec 24, 2019 4:24:37 GMT 5
Actually I’m going to change my vote, Carnotaurus would win. Way faster, Carnotaurus could just repeat the same tactic or maybe. They were made for grasping prey, so I can’t see the Buffalo winning once it gets attacked around the neck or the back.
I mean this would be similar to a modern tiger and a water buffalo. I see the battle happening with the Carnotaurus biting and grasping it’s jaws on the Buffalo’s neck and the others try to help but are unsuccessful.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 24, 2019 4:47:08 GMT 5
Abelisaurids are very cursorial, and those horns are very long and awkward - probably no more than deterrants at best, not good for goring. Carno would probbaly get around with a little effort. That's the issue-Carnotaurus is not maneuverable. Those horns would allow Pelorovis to clip Carno from the front or sides at range, and being 4 legged and the defending animal, it can just turn to face its opponent. How not? It's very agile, fast, and athletic, and has the stamina to attempt continuous outflanking - heck, it does not need to do that. It could bite the head or face of the buffalo without needing to outflank, and that would do some serious damage. |
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Post by denis on Dec 24, 2019 5:18:33 GMT 5
That's the issue-Carnotaurus is not maneuverable. Those horns would allow Pelorovis to clip Carno from the front or sides at range, and being 4 legged and the defending animal, it can just turn to face its opponent. How not? It's very agile, fast, and athletic, and has the stamina to attempt continuous outflanking - heck, it does not need to do that. It could bite the head or face of the buffalo without needing to outflank, and that would do some serious damage. It’s probably going to end like a Lion vs a Buffalo. Update again: Yeah this would be a very hard fight. I mean using an average sized bull, Carnotaurus would win. But if you using the largest which weighed 4,400 pounds or 2.2 tons. Yeah I think the Buffalo, would win for sure. |
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