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Post by Infinity Blade on Aug 23, 2022 19:24:50 GMT 5
Vultures get almost all of their meat from scavenging. But on rare occasions, they will go after live (small) prey. This just goes to show that even these highly specialized scavengers will still kill if necessary. Turkey vulture predation on sea turtle hatchlings ( Fowler, 1979). Black vulture capturing a live 6-8 cm fish with its beak and foot ( Jackson et al., 1978). Turkey vulture capturing a live ~10 cm fish with its beak (Jackson et al., 1978). Turkey vulture capturing and devouring a live juvenile cotton rat ( Platt & Rainwater, 2009). Lesser yellow-headed vulture capturing a live 20-22 cm bay snook with its bill ( Gula, 2021).
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Post by Infinity Blade on Jan 8, 2023 4:24:35 GMT 5
This is, to my knowledge, the largest kill a single African wild dog has made. It was an adult greater kudu cow ( Courchamp et al., 2002). The largest prey they have taken as a whole are juvenile cape buffalo and eland ( Hayward et al., 2006).
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Post by Supercommunist on Jan 8, 2023 6:31:39 GMT 5
There is this video of AWD pack killing an adult buffalo:
I imagine they would kill large prey more regularly if they didn't have to worry about lions and hyenas usurping their kills.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Apr 10, 2023 3:37:05 GMT 5
A while back I posted a paper documenting further evidence of a tyrannosaurid-ceratopsid interaction ( Dalman & Lucas, 2018). NMMNH P-50000 is a chasmosaurine skull that would have been 2 meters long or slightly more when complete (what we have is 1.73 meters long). A cast was made of the orbital horn core before it was lost; judging from it, this ceratopsian was well armed. This skull has bite marks from a tyrannosaurid that are both healed or unhealed. While the bite maker's species cannot be determined, the bite pattern shows only a single row of teeth on each side of the ceratopsian's skull. This indicates the tyrannosaur had a narrow mouth, more like that of Gorgosaurus than Daspletosaurus. Just to be clear of what happened to this ceratopsid (particularly with regards to the unhealed bite marks), I emailed the authors of this paper for clarification (Lucas conferred to Dalman to answer my question). Turns out while this ceratopsid survived one attack, it wasn't so lucky a second time, and ended up killed and eaten. View AttachmentView AttachmentI wanted to expand upon this point and make some minor corrections. Not only do the bite marks indicate a tyrannosaur with a narrow mouth, but at least some of the tooth marks are also labiolingually compressed, not incrassate like the teeth of adult tyrannosaurids. Immature tyrannosaurids are known to have possessed narrow snouts and labiolingually compressed teeth. However, while Dalman & Lucas claim that Gorgosaurus had a narrow mouth, unlike Daspletosaurus, we know (certainly by this point) that albertosaurines like Gorgosaurus had broad mouths as adults ( here's-> how juvenile and adult Gorgosaurus skulls compare). Adult albertosaurines also had incrassate teeth. You know what is consistent with a narrow mouth and labiolingually compressed teeth? Juvenile tyrannosaurids. This suggests that the attacker(s) of this ceratopsian (it's since been dubbed Bisticeratops btw) were juvenile tyrannosaurids. Although this ceratopsian was not fully grown itself, it still clearly had a large skull and long horns, and was definitely a formidable prey item. If so, this is a very impressive predation event.
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Post by Supercommunist on Apr 10, 2023 4:24:17 GMT 5
Wasn't the Montana dueling ceratopsian also believed to have been attacked by juvenile tyrannosaurs?
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Post by Creodont on Apr 10, 2023 5:01:13 GMT 5
Oh yeah, I remember reading about the "Bloody Mary" Nanotyrannus specimen years back.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Apr 10, 2023 21:03:08 GMT 5
Wasn't the Montana dueling ceratopsian also believed to have been attacked by juvenile tyrannosaurs? It needs to be examined and published on (which I believe they are currently trying to do) and I haven't examined the specimens myself (obviously). But, at least from the info I've found on the two, I don't think it's implausible. Certain details about them make me think it's rather unlikely to be a mere scavenging event or the two carcasses washing up together. 1) There were teeth embedded in the neck and vertebrae of the ceratopsian (and the tyrannosaur itself had several teeth broken off). The neck is a preferred body part for predators to bite, while the spine also seems like a plausible target on a live ceratopsian (compare this with bite marks underneath a sacrum, like in one Trike specimen for instance; those were almost certainly made when the animal was already dead). Otherwise, there doesn't seem to be any other trace of scavenging on the ceratopsian, like bite marks on preferred regions on a carcass (e.g. the hips or the gut) or extensive gnawing. The forelimbs of the ceratopsian seem to be missing, which could be the result of scavenging, but it's certainly not the fault of the juvenile rex it got buried with. 2) The ceratopsian's foot and tail were found on top of the tyrannosaur's tail. If the tyrannosaur was scavenging but died, I would expect the much lighter tyrannosaur to have fallen on top of the ceratopsian, not end up underneath it somehow. I also find it difficult to imagine that the carcasses being washed up together would lead to this arrangement, given how the ceratopsian was obviously the heavier of the two. On the other hand, if the tyrannosaur died first, and then the ceratopsian fell on top of its tail, I could see how this could happen. 3) The tyrannosaur supposedly had a broken finger. This may or may not be evidence that it was actually attempting to prey on the ceratopsian. If it shows signs of healing, it must have gotten the pathology before dying. If it does not, that would suggest it got the pathology around the time of death, and it is conveniently right next to a ceratopsian...
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Post by Creodont on Apr 11, 2023 2:39:31 GMT 5
Tawny frogmouth w/ fresh stick insect kill:
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Post by Infinity Blade on Aug 29, 2023 23:20:39 GMT 5
It shocks me that this got next to no attention, but the holotype of Postosuchus alisonae was not only found with the remains of four different animals in its gut, but it was also found on top of a small predatory crocodylomorph called Dromicosuchus grallator. The Dromicosuchus bears bite marks on its skull and neck. This suggests it was caught and killed by the Postosuchus, only for the predator to die and be buried with it (it was probably mired in the mud) (Peyer et al., 2008). This Postosuchus was quite a prolific predator/feeder. It hadn't even fully digested the remains of four completely different animals before trying to kill a fifth.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Aug 30, 2023 0:09:53 GMT 5
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Post by Infinity Blade on Sept 17, 2023 5:38:22 GMT 5
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Post by Infinity Blade on Oct 2, 2023 3:25:59 GMT 5
Wild juvenile female peregrine falcon one-shots a mallard drake. Analysis of the video shows that the falcon must have been traveling close to 90 km/h. The duck was the heavier and stronger animal, so this swift, powerful attack minimizes any struggle.
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Post by Supercommunist on Oct 2, 2023 3:53:14 GMT 5
The biggest animals I have seen falcons one shot are pelicans and herons.
Second video is falconry:
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Post by Exalt on Oct 2, 2023 5:01:42 GMT 5
When does the attack actually occur in the second of the three? It looks like the falcon barely touched it in the one moment where they seem to touch. Were they going much faster than they appeared?
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Post by Supercommunist on Oct 2, 2023 5:36:29 GMT 5
It looks like the heron got bopped at 1:20. It's possible it was still alive but unconcious after gettig hit but when you're that high up you're effectively dead.
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