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Post by Runic on Jun 5, 2013 6:49:43 GMT 5
Highly doubt it, most terrestrial predators generally best lizards in conflicts on land. Everything except komodo. |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 5, 2013 6:56:29 GMT 5
Highly doubt it, most terrestrial predators generally best lizards in conflicts on land. And thats why the feral dogs on the Komodo isle have surpressed and are forcing ora into extinction.....oh wait I forgot that Ora eat them my bad. Dingo only prey on perentie in packs because they are too dangerous to handle alone. Varanids generally are only bested by mammalian predators larger than themselves. Also one of the most common things found the stomach of florida nile monitors is cat, I doubt its all road kill. |
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Post by DinosaurMichael on Jun 5, 2013 7:02:38 GMT 5
Guys can we just debate. After all there is such a thing as just pretend for it that they're at parity and adults. There so now let's debate okay.
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Post by Runic on Jun 5, 2013 7:08:25 GMT 5
Guys can we just debate. After all there is such a thing as just pretend for it that they're at parity and adults. There so now let's debate okay. You can't pretend they are both adults at equal weights because megalania is 300+lbs bigger as an adult. No matter how you look at it their is no parity here. Where did this parity law come from anyways on forum? It really gets annoying. It's like me saying at parity a tiger will kill a t rex adult. At parity a leopard will kill a polar bear. At parity a t rex will kill a megalodon. |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 5, 2013 7:13:46 GMT 5
Guys can we just debate. After all there is such a thing as just pretend for it that they're at parity and adults. There so now let's debate okay. I believe parity should only be an option when the two species wieght ranges overlap naturally. |
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Post by DinosaurMichael on Jun 5, 2013 7:15:53 GMT 5
Okay fine then. If were not going to debate. Then can one of the admin's or mod's lock or delete this thread.
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Post by Vodmeister on Jun 5, 2013 10:14:08 GMT 5
Jeez, can you not have a 690 pound Lion vs 710 pound Megalania without debating about size this whole time?
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Post by Vodmeister on Jun 5, 2013 10:15:54 GMT 5
Highly doubt it, most terrestrial predators generally best lizards in conflicts on land. Everything except komodo. I've seen a Honey Badger destroy a Monitor Lizard larger than itself before, so I doubt it. |
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Post by Runic on Jun 5, 2013 10:30:17 GMT 5
Jeez, can you not have a 690 pound Lion vs 710 pound Megalania without debating about size this whole time? Nope cause its a freakish lion against a average lizard. Tho even then I'd back the lizard. |
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Post by Runic on Jun 5, 2013 10:31:14 GMT 5
Everything except komodo. I've seen a Honey Badger destroy a Monitor Lizard larger than itself before, so I doubt it. Varanids get more dangerous the larger they get. I'd like to see a mammal cripple a buffalo 10 times bigger in one bite like komodo do. |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 5, 2013 11:10:04 GMT 5
Everything except komodo. I've seen a Honey Badger destroy a Monitor Lizard larger than itself before, so I doubt it. Except you didnt, your average honey badger weighs what? 14-15 kg, do you know how much your average wild nile monitor weighs? 5-10 kg (females can weigh as little as 3kg) do you even know what a 15kg nile monitor would look like? It |
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Post by coherentsheaf on Jun 5, 2013 14:22:15 GMT 5
Everything except komodo. I've seen a Honey Badger destroy a Monitor Lizard larger than itself before, so I doubt it. There are no varanids in africa exceeding the size of a honey badger. |
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Post by creature386 on Jun 5, 2013 19:46:32 GMT 5
Such battles would belong in a fictional face off section.
Although I'm against creating such a section, because on carnivora it was basically used for spam.
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Post by creature386 on Jun 6, 2013 20:10:20 GMT 5
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Post by elosha11 on Jun 6, 2013 21:04:25 GMT 5
Members,
We have not yet established any hard and fast rules on the interspecific conflicts. We encourage contemporaneously existing creatures as having precedent in for interspecific conflicts, but I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with having some other conflicts between non-contemporaneous species as long as (1) such hypothetical conflicts do not overwhelm the forum, (2) the conflicts pit reasonable opponents against each other, and (3) most importantly, the conflicts contribute to scientific and biological knowledge of the animals in question. We don't want hundreds of fight threads merely for the sake of the fight.
Part of the difficulties here in this particular contest is that no one can predict with certainty the "average" or even maximum size of megalania. However, most research seems to indicate that they were significantly larger than lions. I am suspect of the analysis stating the "average" megalania was only 700+ pounds but the maximum could be 4300 pounds. That's way too large of a disparity and highlights the ambiguity still surrounding this animal. However, we can have legitimate discussions of something like a 500 pound lion or tiger v a 1000 pound crocodile, or even a 2000 pound crocodile, which is probably a decent, (although not perfect) analogy here. I think we can legitimately assume an adult megalania could reach 1000 to 2000 pounds, so perhaps a compromise here would be to consider such a contest with a 400-500 pound lion.
We should get rid of the idea of perfect weight parity here though. It's just like I stated on for max size croc v. average great white, if you take a large adult lion of 500 ponds and pit it against a 500 pound megalania, you are pitting a prime specimen v. a juvenile subadult specimen. It would still be a great feat for the lion to take out such a large predator, but it would really be somewhat of a mismatch in fighting/predatory skills and experience disfavoring the juvenile megalania, and in that respect would not be a "fair" contest.
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