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Post by rock on May 13, 2019 6:09:33 GMT 5
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 13, 2019 6:11:07 GMT 5
I think we're descended from them, but not part of the ape branch itself
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Post by rock on May 13, 2019 6:12:35 GMT 5
I think we're descended from them, but not part of the ape branch itself it is atacully the oppsite we are apes but we did not evovle from them , we share a comman ancestor with monkeys who share 99% of the same dna with us  www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qQmDU8QsY |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 13, 2019 6:13:11 GMT 5
^Oh, I stand corrected then. Looks like we're part of the group after all
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Post by rock on May 13, 2019 6:13:45 GMT 5
^Oh, I stand corrected then. Looks like we're part of the group after all pretty cool right? |
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Post by rock on Jun 4, 2019 19:39:46 GMT 5
 do you think this proves humans are apes? we evovled from a ape ancestor and humans and chimpanzees are so close on the evolution branch , so too me this would prove that humans are apes as well , but what do you guys think |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 4, 2019 20:36:31 GMT 5
Hasn't this already been proven one way or another?
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Post by creature386 on Jun 4, 2019 21:40:26 GMT 5
Yes, it did which is why I moved this thread here.
While humans probably aren't apes in the common usage of the word "ape", phylogenetically speaking, we are and there is no question about it.
The tree you have shown for example places chimps closer to humans than to gorillas, so if humans aren't apes, gorillas probably aren't either.
Most people who say "humans don't descend from apes, we just share a common ancestor" are likely referring to recent apes. They do this to counter the common misconception that evolutionary theory states we descended from chimps. However, the common ancestor between humans and recent apes would be classified as an "ape" if it lived today.
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Post by rock on Jun 4, 2019 22:00:35 GMT 5
Yes, it did which is why I moved this thread here. While humans probably aren't apes in the common usage of the word "ape", phylogenetically speaking, we are and there is no question about it. The tree you have shown for example places chimps closer to humans than to gorillas, so if humans aren't apes, gorillas probably aren't either. In phylogenetic terms, there is no way "ape" means the same as "chimp". If anything, it means hominoid or maybe hominid. Therefore, we don't just have a common ancestor with apes, we did indeed descend from a creature which would be classified as an "ape" if it was lived today. so basacilly you agree that humans are apes??? |
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Post by rock on Jun 4, 2019 22:00:54 GMT 5
Hasn't this already been proven one way or another? yes it has , my bad i did not realize it |
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Post by creature386 on Jun 4, 2019 22:05:52 GMT 5
Yes, it did which is why I moved this thread here. While humans probably aren't apes in the common usage of the word "ape", phylogenetically speaking, we are and there is no question about it. The tree you have shown for example places chimps closer to humans than to gorillas, so if humans aren't apes, gorillas probably aren't either. In phylogenetic terms, there is no way "ape" means the same as "chimp". If anything, it means hominoid or maybe hominid. Therefore, we don't just have a common ancestor with apes, we did indeed descend from a creature which would be classified as an "ape" if it was lived today. so basacilly you agree that humans are apes??? Yes. I've edited my post to make it a bit more clear. |
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Post by rock on Jun 4, 2019 22:07:51 GMT 5
so basacilly you agree that humans are apes??? Yes. i agree and do you think this chart proves it? |
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Post by creature386 on Jun 4, 2019 22:12:20 GMT 5
Technically it does because it says "common ape ancestor", but the data given is not enough to prove this. The tree you posted further above is better suited if you want to persuade someone: |
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Post by rock on Jun 4, 2019 22:26:17 GMT 5
Technically it does because it says "common ape ancestor", but the data given is not enough to prove this. The tree you posted further above is better suited if you want to persuade someone: ok , thank you |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 5, 2019 2:14:18 GMT 5
Yes rock, we're part of the group.
However, it's funny how lots don't know that
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