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Post by creature386 on Aug 5, 2013 21:26:05 GMT 5
Wow, I thought there are much more atheists/agnostics in America... Me too. It looks like at least 40% of the Americans in the internet are atheists/agnostics. It depends on what you mean with Creationism. In general Creationism means that someone is believing the Earth was created like it is described in the Bible (or Quran etc.). Evangelize other people has something to with their religion in general not with Creationism. I would things like Intelligent Design also call Creationism, but instead of the evangelical Creationists, ID needs nor a specific religion whether a god, they just need a "designer". I wrote that on carnivora once, but coherentsheaf told me that using the term "Creationist" for people believing in a creator is too misleading, as it often refers to Young Earth Creationists (these are the ones which I were referring to in my previous post): carnivoraforum.com/single/?p=8500437&t=9616383But I agree that there are different types of creationists.
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Post by theropod on Aug 5, 2013 21:44:02 GMT 5
Wow, I thought there are much more atheists/agnostics in America... Me too. It looks like at least 40% of the Americans in the internet are atheists. Many people are actually atheists/agnostics but remain christians on paper. And I think we alltogether are mostly accessing parts of the internet were you'll find them primarily, tough I'm certainly not spending as much tought on issues of religion as you are.
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Post by creature386 on Aug 5, 2013 22:02:05 GMT 5
Well, on paper 70% of the Swedes are religious, but according to the image I have posted in this thread (which has shown that more than 90% of America is religious), it is far less.
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Post by coherentsheaf on Aug 5, 2013 23:43:17 GMT 5
My definition for creationism is: People that reject all or at least much of standard evolutionary theory in favor of the view that some personal entity is responsible for some or even all biodiversity. Thats more than just youg earth creationism, but does not encompass theistic evolutionists and the like.
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Post by Derdadort on Aug 15, 2013 19:32:10 GMT 5
Just a nice video In the end of the video there should be some phrase like "What's next?"
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Post by coherentsheaf on Aug 16, 2013 18:43:45 GMT 5
I like this version much better.
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Post by LeopJag on Aug 17, 2013 6:46:23 GMT 5
Just a nice video In the end of the video there should be some phrase like "What's next?" Cool vid, though the synapsids came before the dinosaurs.
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Post by creature386 on Jan 10, 2014 23:58:38 GMT 5
I'm kind of glad things like this don't happen on German/European schools (okay, at least not on those schools I know...). That's because Europe isn't a very religious continent, as you see here: (The percentages represent atheists/agnostics) In America, it looks a bit different: youtu.be/0l8egs8MFwk?t=20sWow, I thought there are much more atheists/agnostics in America... I now did some research and it looks like less than 10% is indeed too low. Wikipedia gives far higher numbers: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States
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Post by coherentsheaf on Jan 11, 2014 18:24:51 GMT 5
Having no religious affiliation is not the same as being an atheist/agnostic.
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Post by creature386 on Jan 12, 2014 0:10:21 GMT 5
This is not based on what they are on the paper, but on how they identify themselves. But you're right, we have to consider deists too, but I don't think they make up a notable percentage of the population (as they are never mentioned in such surveys).
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Post by coherentsheaf on Jan 12, 2014 17:45:01 GMT 5
This is not based on what they are on the paper, but on how they identify themselves. But you're right, we have to consider deists too, but I don't think they make up a notable percentage of the population (as they are never mentioned in such surveys). Nope you have to consider 100s of different kinds of "universe is god" logic people who have no explicit religious affiliation. Only 5-10% explicitely identify as atheists or agnostics.
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 19, 2014 20:45:13 GMT 5
There is no debate anymore, evolution is almost a fact if not a fact.
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Post by Life on Jan 26, 2014 13:32:14 GMT 5
Evolution represents (observable) natural processes of creation activity, IMO.
This is a matter of perspective. God can create/created everything, so his position would give creationist vibe. Us (humans) can observe natural processes of creation activity and we may sugarcoat these processes in manner as we fit (e.g. Theory of Evolution). If we create anything, we are likely to imply it as such.
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Post by LeopJag on Jan 27, 2014 9:12:54 GMT 5
"sugar coat"? i am theistic evolutionist personally, which means that in that sense one could say i'm a "creationist....yet i accept "Darwinian" evolution and believe that all living organisms evolved from the same common ancestral stock.
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Post by Vodmeister on Jan 27, 2014 22:26:03 GMT 5
This video by thunderf00t is legendary;
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