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Post by Life on Feb 2, 2014 23:37:26 GMT 5
Perhaps "sugarcoat" is not the right choice in wording, I meant "label."
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Post by LeopJag on Jul 26, 2014 7:28:08 GMT 5
Another flavor of creationism is old earth creationism....although old earthers like their young earth counterparts, reject speciation (they think that god made us and other species from scratch so to speak)...it is a way more believable and credible interpretation than YEC - they accept that the earth is 4.5 billion years old ("day-age") as well as nearly all other aspects of mainstream science. i believe many devout yet better educated christians are embracing OEC...alot have ditched that simplistic and childish crud that is young earth for old earth.
Personally, i remain theistic evolution.
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Post by Vodmeister on Jul 26, 2014 10:48:52 GMT 5
What I find amusing is that many creationists spend a lot more time trying to prove evolution wrong than they spend proving creationism right.
Even if evolution did turn out to be false, it would not prove creationism true. All that would do is prove evolution false.
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Post by malikc6 on Jul 26, 2014 12:32:56 GMT 5
The more I study evolution, the more confused I get. I wonder how something extraordinarily complex like the brain evolved from just a bunch of nerve cells that just somehow got together. Why is it that out of billions of cells that originated from just one cell, one of them became us? Out of ALL of them. How did awareness evolve? How did instinct evolve? Does free will exist? What is morality? What is choice?
Another reason is because I feel like the ecosystem (before humans really started doing damage) is in too much of order. Everything seems to be in place. Heck Jupiter prevents most asteroids from crashing into the earth. Our planet is right in the Goldilocks zone where we aren't too cold or hot, but just right.
I'm not religious as I don't belong to any religious group but I am a spiritualist. I do feel if evolution is truly true, maybe just maybe, something higher than us could have manipulated our chances of starting off as a cell to a human. Do you all know the probability of all this?
Now there is no denying evolution. We even have proof that there was more than one human species like Neanderthals, Homo Erutus, Homo Habilis, and others. There are many missing links so we can't fully confirm it, but we do have convincing stuff.
Once more. The probability of this is mind blowing. Out of BILLIONS, probably even TRILLIONS of cells that came from one cell that split into and kept multiplying and mutating into different cells, one of them managed to become us. Not only that but manage to somehow develop the most complicated thing out of literally anything we know so far about and not fully, and that is our brains. Heck even other species with inferior brains are complicated to. All from nerve cells just coming together with cells constantly multiplying and mutating.
Is that truly our being? Just a bunch of cells multiplying and mutating? Is our awareness, feelings, morality, and free will truly just cells that ensure our survival? Do we really have any type of control of our actions?
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Post by Supercommunist on Jul 26, 2014 14:24:28 GMT 5
That's actually not in the least bit surprising. The universe is a vast plane that is composed of billions of galaxies, which in turn contain billions of solar systems. By sheer probability,life would almost be guaranteed to flourish somewhere.
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Post by malikc6 on Jul 26, 2014 14:35:10 GMT 5
Of course. The universe lasts forever but the probability of something so complex as us evolving from a single cell...
It's possible but I guess since the universe, rarity and probability may not even exist.
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Post by creature386 on Aug 11, 2014 13:51:24 GMT 5
Can you elaborate on the last sentence? Does the point about probability mean all could be somehow controlled (=all had to happen) or do I get something wrong?
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Post by malikc6 on Aug 12, 2014 9:04:04 GMT 5
Maybe or something beyond. I'm basically saying "who knows?"
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