rock
Senior Member Rank 1
Posts: 1,586
|
Post by rock on Jul 17, 2019 0:45:33 GMT 5
Western Gorilla - Gorilla gorilla The western gorilla (Gorilla gorilla) is a omnivorous species of ape that eats insects , bambo , fruit , eggs , larvae , leaves and small mammals, it lives in montane, primary and secondary forests and lowland swamps in central Africa in Angola, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Republic of the Congo, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon. Western gorillas are generally lighter colored than eastern gorillas. Western lowland gorillas have black, dark grey or dark brown-grey fur with a brownish forehead. Measurements of wild individuals show that mature males average 155 cm (61 in) in height, while mature females average 135 cm (53 in), weights of wild individuals have been rarely taken but captive western gorillas average 157 kg (346 lb) in males and 80 kg (176 lb) in females. The average weight of wild male western lowland gorillas is 146 kg. The Cross River gorilla differs from the western lowland gorilla in both skull and tooth dimensions.  Spotted Hyena - Crocuta crocuta Shoulder height: 70-91 cm (28-36 in) Body length: 95-166 cm (38-65 in) Weight: 40.5-81.7 kg (89-180 lb) General information: The spotted hyena is a species of hyena native to Sub-Saharan Africa. It is the largest member of the Hyaenidae, and is the most social of the Carnivora in that it has the largest group sizes and most complex social behaviours. Its social organisation is unlike that of any other Carnivore, bearing closer resemblance to that of cercopithecine primates (baboons and macaques) with respect to group-size, hierarchical structure, and frequency of social interaction among both kin and unrelated group-mates. Spotted hyena society is matriarchal; females are larger than males, and dominate them. The spotted hyena is a highly successful animal, being the most common large carnivore in Africa. Its success is due in part to its adaptability and opportunism; it is both an efficient hunter and a scavenger, with the capacity to eat and digest skin, bone and other animal waste.  Credit to Wikipedia |
|
|
|
Post by dinosauria101 on Jul 17, 2019 1:10:09 GMT 5
I think the spotted hyena has an edge here. They are rather durable, and a few bites would prove disaster. Though the primate has a significant size advantage so it's a pretty close match
|
|
rock
Senior Member Rank 1
Posts: 1,586
|
Post by rock on Jul 17, 2019 1:11:54 GMT 5
I think the spotted hyena has an edge here. They are rather durable, and a few bites would prove disaster. Though the primate has a significant size advantage so it's a pretty close match the gorilla is bigger here with a stronger bite , it should win here, i cant see reasoning as to how a hyena which is far stronger beating a much bigger and stronger gorilla |
|
|
|
Post by dinosauria101 on Jul 17, 2019 1:13:09 GMT 5
I think the spotted hyena has an edge here. They are rather durable, and a few bites would prove disaster. Though the primate has a significant size advantage so it's a pretty close match the gorilla is bigger here with a stronger bite , it should win here, i cant see reasoning as to how a hyena which is far stronger beating a much bigger and stronger gorilla Now I can understand your reasoning in favoring the gorilla, but how does a western gorilla have a stronger bite than a spotted hyena? Do you have any source to back it up? |
|
rock
Senior Member Rank 1
Posts: 1,586
|
Post by rock on Jul 17, 2019 1:17:09 GMT 5
the gorilla is bigger here with a stronger bite , it should win here, i cant see reasoning as to how a hyena which is far stronger beating a much bigger and stronger gorilla Now I can understand your reasoning in favoring the gorilla, but how does a western gorilla have a stronger bite than a spotted hyena? Do you have any source to back it up? i have a chart on showing this ,  besides that , gorillas are much more aggresive and are larger and have more stamina , hyenas are pack hunters by nature , they tend to scare away from animals bigger then themselves 1 v 1 |
|
|
|
Post by dinosauria101 on Jul 17, 2019 1:24:09 GMT 5
Now I can understand your reasoning in favoring the gorilla, but how does a western gorilla have a stronger bite than a spotted hyena? Do you have any source to back it up? 1: i have a chart on showing this , 2: besides that , gorillas are much more aggresive and are larger and have more stamina , 3: hyenas are pack hunters by nature , they tend to scare away from animals bigger then themselves 1 v 1 I'm not necessarily saying your opinion is incorrect, but let me debunk a couple of things: 1: That isn't even measured using the correct units for bite force, and it's not exactly a study either. Remember what creature386 said concerning this sort of thing? 2: Aggression is irrelevant here, both sides want to kill the other 3: No backing away here. This is a death match. |
|
rock
Senior Member Rank 1
Posts: 1,586
|
Post by rock on Jul 17, 2019 1:40:16 GMT 5
1: i have a chart on showing this , 2: besides that , gorillas are much more aggresive and are larger and have more stamina , 3: hyenas are pack hunters by nature , they tend to scare away from animals bigger then themselves 1 v 1 I'm not necessarily saying your opinion is incorrect, but let me debunk a couple of things: 1: That isn't even measured using the correct units for bite force, and it's not exactly a study either. Remember what creature386 said concerning this sort of thing? 2: Aggression is irrelevant here, both sides want to kill the other 3: No backing away here. This is a death match. gorillas are quite aggresive and have quite a powerful bite force even if you dont think it has a stronger bite then the hyena , it can definally damage one especailly if this is a fight to the death those big canines will be of use |
|
|
|
Post by dinosauria101 on Jul 17, 2019 1:46:38 GMT 5
I'm not necessarily saying your opinion is incorrect, but let me debunk a couple of things: 1: That isn't even measured using the correct units for bite force, and it's not exactly a study either. Remember what creature386 said concerning this sort of thing? 2: Aggression is irrelevant here, both sides want to kill the other 3: No backing away here. This is a death match. gorillas are quite aggresive and have quite a powerful bite force even if you dont think it has a stronger bite then the hyena , it can definally damage one especailly if this is a fight to the death those big canines will be of use Aggression is irrelevant here, and hyenas are very durable, so if the gorilla does win, it would be a long and hard fight |
|
rock
Senior Member Rank 1
Posts: 1,586
|
Post by rock on Jul 17, 2019 1:53:00 GMT 5
gorillas are quite aggresive and have quite a powerful bite force even if you dont think it has a stronger bite then the hyena , it can definally damage one especailly if this is a fight to the death those big canines will be of use Aggression is irrelevant here, and hyenas are very durable, so if the gorilla does win, it would be a long and hard fight gorillas are pretty durable as well they have survived being cut by leopards multiple time and can survive being bitten by their own kind which have some of the strongest bites on the planet  gorilla gets beat by leopard and still lives |
|
|
|
Post by dinosauria101 on Jul 17, 2019 1:58:10 GMT 5
Aggression is irrelevant here, and hyenas are very durable, so if the gorilla does win, it would be a long and hard fight 1: gorillas are pretty durable as well 2: they have survived being cut by leopards multiple time and can survive being bitten by their own kind 3: which have some of the strongest bites on the planet 2:gorilla gets beat by leopard and still lives 1: No, in fact the only durability they have is due to size. They have very thin hide. 2: Yes, survive. But will they still be in fighting condition after? I doubt it 3: Source please? |
|
rock
Senior Member Rank 1
Posts: 1,586
|
Post by rock on Jul 17, 2019 2:44:48 GMT 5
1: gorillas are pretty durable as well 2: they have survived being cut by leopards multiple time and can survive being bitten by their own kind 3: which have some of the strongest bites on the planet 2:gorilla gets beat by leopard and still lives 1: No, in fact the only durability they have is due to size. They have very thin hide. 2: Yes, survive. But will they still be in fighting condition after? I doubt it 3: Source please? gorilla durable enough to be cut by glass and survive |
|
|
|
Post by dinosauria101 on Jul 17, 2019 2:50:58 GMT 5
Yes, SURVIVE. But what's their fighting condition immediately afterwards? Nit that good. And what is your source for western gorillas having among the strongest jaws on the planet? |
|
rock
Senior Member Rank 1
Posts: 1,586
|
Post by rock on Jul 17, 2019 3:15:02 GMT 5
Yes, SURVIVE. But what's their fighting condition immediately afterwards? Nit that good. And what is your source for western gorillas having among the strongest jaws on the planet? i wont under estimate the gorilla here , it is larger , heavier and is stronger , they are known to scare off leopards who are more powerful then hyenas , after it broke the glass nothing happened to it |
|
|
|
Post by dinosauria101 on Jul 17, 2019 3:16:17 GMT 5
Yes, SURVIVE. But what's their fighting condition immediately afterwards? Nit that good. And what is your source for western gorillas having among the strongest jaws on the planet? i wont under estimate the gorilla here , it is larger , heavier and is stronger , they are known to scare off leopards who are more powerful then hyenas , after it broke the glass nothing happened to it I was not saying your viewpoint was incorrect. I was debunking errors |
|
|
|
Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Jul 17, 2019 3:47:33 GMT 5
The gorilla wins due to weight advantage and has arms that can hold and can bite. The hyena's jaws can crush bone and is more durable but it lacks the size and grappling ability.
|
|
