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Post by dinosauria101 on Oct 9, 2019 20:40:13 GMT 5
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Post by creature386 on Oct 9, 2019 20:49:39 GMT 5
While Worm taught me to never underestimate the power of little creepy crawlies against a human, I still back the knight here.
Even if his armor develops cracks, they should be easy to protect as the bees are unlikely to exploit them strategically. This battle is gonna take an eternity and I think the fact that knight is more intelligent could help him to come up with some sort of trap.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Oct 9, 2019 21:01:04 GMT 5
Hmm....trap?
I was actually envisioning a 'double death' here, where the knight kills the bees but dies from the bee stings. However, you do have a very good point about lack of strategies on the bees' part. Leaning a bit more towards the knight; they can probably swat all the bees before they either get under the armor or they die from stings.
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Post by creature386 on Oct 9, 2019 21:05:50 GMT 5
Even if tools aren't allowed, he could sweat a lot and then make a little opening (which he could close if necessary) to gather the bees in one spot and swat them.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Oct 9, 2019 21:09:06 GMT 5
That's pretty smart.
But isn't the armor a bit inflexible/rigid to swat something underneath it?
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Post by Infinity Blade on Oct 9, 2019 21:13:42 GMT 5
It really depends on whether or not the bees can get through any gaps in the armor. Note too that some places have gambeson and possibly maille underneath the plate armor; even if the bees got underneath the plate in those regions they have to get past those too. The best place may be something like the face, which I’m pretty sure wasn’t protected by padding (the knight needed to see and breathe as easily as possible, after all). The knight is (hopefully) not stupid enough to raise his visor, so the question is whether or not they can somehow fit through the eye slits or something.
I’m too ignorant to confidently answer those questions. This is a weird scenario.
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Post by sam1 on Oct 22, 2019 19:04:11 GMT 5
Easy win for the beetles..
Are you people missing the fact that the knight needs to see?
The bees would easily and quickly rush through the vision-enabling gap on the helmet and make it game over quickly.
I'm saying this from experience.
Once a single bee somehow found its way through my bee-keeping hat and, of course, went straight to my eye.
The moment after I instinctively took off the hat to get it out, they swarmed my head and face.
I ended up with probably 25+ stings to the head(miraculously, of maybe due to some kind of immunity I had almost no reaction, just a lot of tiny sting marks).
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Post by theropod on Oct 22, 2019 19:29:27 GMT 5
Well, I don’t think people are ignoring that, it’s just a question of how tight the visor is. That depends on the style of helmet.
But if the slits or holes are too small for a bee to crawl through, and the knight is wearing full armour, then there might really be no place where a bee could harm him. With truly high-quality late medieval armour, it is possible there would be no such gaps, with everything not covered by plate at least being covered by gambeson. There’s no way a bee is getting through that, gambeson can occasionally stop longbow arrows.
Of course if there are any gaps that are not properly covered, or if we are talking about an open-faced or not fully enclosed helmet, then the knight is toast.
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Post by creature386 on Oct 22, 2019 19:29:57 GMT 5
To be fair, the permeability of the eye slits was brought up by Infinity Blade.
What you are describing is by no means an inevitable scenario though for anyone who needs to see. Otherwise, there won't be any beekeepers.
EDIT: Theropod was faster.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Oct 22, 2019 20:42:32 GMT 5
Well, to be fair, even if the knight is blind, they could swat the bees as they advanced, and it would perhaps be a stalemate with an edge to the knight.
But yeah, a full armored knight with small enough peepholes has this functionally locked up
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Post by sam1 on Oct 23, 2019 0:22:53 GMT 5
The thing simply is the gap on the helmet, in order for the knight to see enough, is just far too large for bees not to be able to enter.
The beekeeper hat is an item designed to keep bees away yet the bees somehow find a way through tiny holes. A medieval helmet with a visor gap? Come on..
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Oct 31, 2019 5:13:46 GMT 5
As long as the bees find a way into the armor, the knight is done for.
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Post by smedz on Oct 31, 2019 5:15:51 GMT 5
Depends if the bees can get past the armor.
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Post by jhg on Nov 3, 2019 21:18:48 GMT 5
It’s a stalemate.
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