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Post by dinosauria101 on Oct 23, 2019 22:15:20 GMT 5
What are your thoughts on it?
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Post by theropod on Oct 23, 2019 22:33:39 GMT 5
Scary to think that we cannot conclusively rule out that Trump could win. Especially considering we can be fairly confident he will not be democratically elected.
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on May 17, 2020 3:21:13 GMT 5
2020 election, I believe Donald Trump is going to have some serious competition.
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Post by elosha11 on May 18, 2020 19:14:47 GMT 5
I have a lot of respect for Joe Biden, and he was always among my first choices for the Democratic nominee. I thought long and hard about others, but unfortunately I have to think electability is the most important factor this year, and I believe Joe Biden has the best chance of beating Trump. I would have voted for any Democratic candidate, but I am very comfortable with Biden. I am concerned however that he is not being able to get his voice heard the during shutdowns and the Coronavirus non-stop media coverage. When he does speak, he usually comports himself very well. However, he does need to be much more visible as the election approaches.
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Post by theropod on May 22, 2020 0:19:37 GMT 5
elosha11 Out of curiosity, who were your other first choices?
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Post by elosha11 on Jun 1, 2020 22:37:57 GMT 5
elosha11 Out of curiosity, who were your other first choices? For a while, I was seriously considering Kamala Harris. Now I would favor Biden picking either Elizabeth Warren or Stacey Abrams as VP. Given the race riots now, I am leaning towards Stacy. She doesn't have massive amounts of experience, but she is articulate, well organized, and sincere (for a politician). I liked Bernie somewhat as well, but I don't think his electability was nearly as strong as Biden's. And it is imperative for the good of our country and the world that Trump be defeated. That is the most important of any factor this election.
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Post by creature386 on Jul 2, 2020 18:59:03 GMT 5
I wonder how the recent focus on police brutality in the public discourse will affect Trump's chances at re-election.
Given that this is a left-wing talking point, I think (and hope) it's gonna diminish them.
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Post by creature386 on Nov 4, 2020 21:34:00 GMT 5
Any predictions on who's gonna make it? I voted for "Biden narrowly wins" in a Twitter poll, though I'm not so sure anymore.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Nov 4, 2020 21:51:08 GMT 5
Not sure either. This morning I thought that Trump was probably going to win, but now Michigan is leaning towards Biden. If the leanings as of right now are maintained, Biden will just barely win out with 270 electoral votes. But of course, things can change, and, if I'm interpreting things correctly, a substantial number of votes still need to be processed in both Nevada and Pennsylvania (to a lesser extent, every other as-yet-undecided state).
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Post by kekistani on Nov 5, 2020 0:20:51 GMT 5
>Most important election of the last 30 years so far >Trump leads in states that would cut off biden's victory >"Gee, Pennsylvania. We sure are tired and a water pipe broke in one building so everyone has to leave these votes unsupervised. We're going to stop counting and/or reporting for 3 hours at 95% done and totally not do illicit stuff. You can join us if you want."-Wisconsin, Michigan, and other important pink states >3 hrs later shittons of ballots magically flow in in favor of Biden by a factor of 94 % (something which sources on both sides reported was going to be like 6/10 in favor instead the night of) >Conveniently almost all are for Biden and are just enough to give him the lead HMMMMMMMMM
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Post by creature386 on Nov 5, 2020 0:45:00 GMT 5
Maybe it's due to postal vote coming in? I'm not too knowledgable, but from what I know, these were long predicted to generally favor Biden. Either way, the tension's killing me (it's German, but the important stuff should be readable):
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Post by Supercommunist on Nov 5, 2020 10:30:54 GMT 5
From what I understand, early votes were biased towards Trump while later votes were skewed in Biden's favor. Biden's probably going to win but it's pretty sad that Trump got so close lol.
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Post by elosha11 on Nov 5, 2020 21:26:55 GMT 5
Biden should win, but it's not a given yet. Trump will continue to self-servingly claim "fraud" or illegality, but if Biden can win Penn. Nevada and Arizona (and as a bonus Georgia), it will be almost impossible on a recount(s) or legal actions to change the result. If Biden flips Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, AND Georgia, it won't be a landslide, and not even a "mandate," but it would be 306 electoral college votes. Not a repudiation of Trump, sadly, but a clear, undisputable victory for Biden, who is light years better than Trump.
And no -- there is no evidence whatsoever of fraud. Counting legal votes after Nov. 3 is not "stealing" votes, that's just Trump lying and disgracing himself -- yet again.
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Post by theropod on Nov 7, 2020 1:19:14 GMT 5
From what I understand, early votes were biased towards Trump while later votes were skewed in Biden's favor. Biden's probably going to win but it's pretty sad that Trump got so close lol. From what I gather it depends on the state law. Some vetted and counted mail-in ballots beforehand/first, resulting in an initial surge for Biden but later catching-up for Trump (e.g. Texas and Florida). Some (e.g. Pennsylvania and Michigan) counted them last because state law did not permit them to start until election day, resulting in early leads for Trump but Biden catching up in the late stages as the postal votes started trickling in. If I may just say so, it is kinda ridiculous to decide stuff like this on the state level so that there is no nationally uniform framework for federal elections. But it’s not really surprising from a country that doesn’t seem willing to accept that in a democracy 600k people should not have just as much legislative power as 40 million. Now if anyone (e.g. Trump himself) is seriously surprised that postal votes are strongly in favour of Biden then I’m sorry, but they must be mentally challenged (and seriously so). Trump spent months campaigning against postal votes in no uncertain terms and the main reason for the surge in postal votes is the pandemic, which republican voters have been consistently polled as being far less worried about than democrats. Ergo, republican voters are way more likely to vote in person, and by inference way less likely to vote by mail. Anything BUT a decisive lead for Biden in the mail-in votes would be suspicious. At this point everything Trump and his supporters do is just making him seem more and more ridiculous. Well ok, that was literally everything he did since he entered the political stage. But it is becoming more and more obvious now and should be obvious for even his staunchest supporters. The Trump campaign immediately alledged fraud in states like Michigan/Wisconsin/Pennsylvania as Biden gained ground there, even though it was expected, and f*ing demanded the counting of legitimate ballots to stop (what kind of democracy would that be?), even though a blue shift was to be expected in those states, while simultaneously organizing armed protests in Arizona to demand every last vote to be counted (which wasn’t ever in any doubt to begin with). He’s not even trying to seem like he’s interested in democracy or fair elections any more.
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Post by creature386 on Nov 7, 2020 21:37:20 GMT 5
According to TAP, Biden passed the required 270 electoral votes. Assuming there was no manipulation (which I strongly presume), he has this in the bag. If Trump refuses to accept the result (which I strongly presume he will), I hope he doesn't achieve anything worse than being a source of amusement.
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