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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 7, 2019 19:34:50 GMT 5
Also, with regards to the Megalosaurus vs short faced bear skeletal it might not be erroneous after all.
With the scalebar I was able to get 150 cm SH for the bear; maybe Hartman's Megalosaurus is just closer to 9.3 meters than 9
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Post by theropod on Dec 7, 2019 19:40:31 GMT 5
Of course that is possible, but you should know what length you scale to if you scale to a certain length, or else state that you scaled the scalebars to the same length (of course for that the scalebars should be properly measurable). I simply check whether the animals are the length in relation to each other that you claim they are, I don’t do background checks on the images, that is not the purpose of this thread.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 14, 2020 3:48:03 GMT 5
Holotype of Sauroposeidon (OMNH 53062, 32 meters TL, 60+ tonnes using this skeletal), holotype of Tyrannosaurus rex (CM 9380, 11.9 meters along the curves, 7 tonnes), and OMNH 1670 Apatosaurus (29.2 meters TL, 50-60 tonnes, not fully grown). Scalebar is 1 meter, skeletals are by Paleo King, Hartman, and Hartman.  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 20, 2020 17:50:28 GMT 5
Milla Zygolophodon (4.1 meters SH, 16 tonnes) vs holotype of Antarctosaurus giganteus (26.22 meters standing length, 76 tonnes, based on Futalognkosaurus). Skeletals are by Larramendi and Paleo King.  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 20, 2020 21:56:49 GMT 5
3 Gorgosaurus (NMC 2120, 9.3 meters TL, 3 tonnes each) vs Tyrannotitan (MPEF-PV 1157, 13 meters axial length, 8.9 tonnes). Skeletals by randomdinos and SpinoInWonderland.  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 20, 2020 22:07:19 GMT 5
USNM 6183 Tyrannosaurus rex (99 cm femur, 17 years old, based on LACM 23845) vs SGM-DIN 1 Carcharodontosaurus (12.95 meters standing length, 9 tonnes). Skeletals by Franoys and SpinoInWonderland.  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 21, 2020 5:47:13 GMT 5
Holotype of Tyrannosaurus rex (CM 9380, 11.9 meters along the curves, 7 tonnes) vs holotype of Antarctosaurus giganteus (MLP 26-316, 26.22 meters standing length, 76+ tonnes, based on Futalognkosaurus). Skeletals are by Hartman and Paleo King.  |
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Post by Grey on Feb 21, 2020 20:21:54 GMT 5
3 Gorgosaurus (NMC 2120, 9.3 meters TL, 3 tonnes each) vs Tyrannotitan (MPEF-PV 1157, 13 meters axial length, 8.9 tonnes). Skeletals by randomdinos and SpinoInWonderland. What is the basis for 9 tonnes carcharodontosaurids ? Last time I checked, only one or two Tyrannosaurus specimens reach that mark. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 21, 2020 20:52:12 GMT 5
3 Gorgosaurus (NMC 2120, 9.3 meters TL, 3 tonnes each) vs Tyrannotitan (MPEF-PV 1157, 13 meters axial length, 8.9 tonnes). Skeletals by randomdinos and SpinoInWonderland. What is the basis for 9 tonnes carcharodontosaurids ? Last time I checked, only one or two Tyrannosaurus specimens reach that mark. For this specifically, I scaled SIW's Tyrannotitan to Greg Paul's estimate, which would be about 8.9 tonnes based on GDI of it. There are also some more carnosaurs that might reach around 9 tonnes, like MUCPv-95 Giganotosaurus, SGM-DIN 1 Carcharodontosaurus, and MCF-PVPH-108.145 Mapusaurus. None of these are set in stone but certainly possible depending on the reconstruction. |
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Post by kekistani on Feb 21, 2020 20:59:15 GMT 5
3 Gorgosaurus (NMC 2120, 9.3 meters TL, 3 tonnes each) vs Tyrannotitan (MPEF-PV 1157, 13 meters axial length, 8.9 tonnes). Skeletals by randomdinos and SpinoInWonderland. What is the basis for 9 tonnes carcharodontosaurids ? Last time I checked, only one or two Tyrannosaurus specimens reach that mark. SIW's skeletals, which get the massive carcharodontosaur sizes he likes. Never mind the fact there's no evidence Tyrannotitan even got to 13 meters, and that T.rex of a similar length is much bulkier yet weighs the same. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 21, 2020 21:11:23 GMT 5
^I refer to Greg Paul for that, he seems to base on Giganotosaurus proportions which doesn't seem unreasonable.
If you don't like larger carnosaur sizes, use what floats your boat and I'll use what floats mine.
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Post by kekistani on Feb 21, 2020 21:15:30 GMT 5
^I refer to Greg Paul for that, he seems to base on Giganotosaurus proportions which doesn't seem unreasonable. If you don't like larger carnosaur sizes, use what floats your boat and I'll use what floats mine. I like what's realistic. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 21, 2020 21:27:40 GMT 5
And these large carnosaur sizes are by no means off the table. They will vary depending on the interpretation, and can all be considered reasonable/realistic.
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Post by kekistani on Feb 22, 2020 1:50:28 GMT 5
And these large carnosaur sizes are by no means off the table. They will vary depending on the interpretation, and can all be considered reasonable/realistic. "not off the table" and "supported by science" are not the same thing. They cannot all be considered reasonable/realistic. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 22, 2020 2:35:17 GMT 5
And these large carnosaur sizes are by no means off the table. They will vary depending on the interpretation, and can all be considered reasonable/realistic. "not off the table" and "supported by science" are not the same thing. They cannot all be considered reasonable/realistic. They're all possible/plausible/within the realms of possibility, is what I mean. Since there are so few bones, a few ways to restore them based on relatives exist, and the varying ways are what get the varying sizes. I'd think sizes not likely to be supported by remains would be 5-6 tonnes or lower, as well as double digit tonnage. But ~6-7 to ~9 tonnes is all within the realm of possibility. |
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