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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 27, 2019 10:09:50 GMT 5
What would be your reasoning? Probably not a mismatch, but the ankylosaurs' armor will provide very good protection against the piranha's jaws and I doubt that more often than not the piranha can kill the ankylosaur before being killed.
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Post by kekistani on Dec 27, 2019 12:04:14 GMT 5
What would be your reasoning? Probably not a mismatch, but the ankylosaurs' armor will provide very good protection against the piranha's jaws and I doubt that more often than not the piranha can kill the ankylosaur before being killed. Piranha can target the stomach and limbs of the Ankylosaur. They usually target weakpoints and extremities first. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 27, 2019 19:40:06 GMT 5
What would be your reasoning? Probably not a mismatch, but the ankylosaurs' armor will provide very good protection against the piranha's jaws and I doubt that more often than not the piranha can kill the ankylosaur before being killed. Piranha can target the stomach and limbs of the Ankylosaur. They usually target weakpoints and extremities first. The stomach has armor plating, and if it goes for the limbs it risks being grabbed at. |
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Post by Infinity Blade on Dec 27, 2019 19:56:53 GMT 5
The "plastron" observed in Liaoningosaurus' ventral surface is better described as epidermal scales ( Arbour et al., 2013). They're not really much of a barrier to a piranha's bite. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 27, 2019 21:19:47 GMT 5
That makes sense; scales wouldn't give much protection.
With the given OP weights, this is closer than I thought. I think this overall depends on 2 things; the adult mass of Liaoningosaurus, and how quickly it can grab the piranha.
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Post by kekistani on Dec 28, 2019 0:27:56 GMT 5
Piranha can target the stomach and limbs of the Ankylosaur. They usually target weakpoints and extremities first. The stomach has armor plating, and if it goes for the limbs it risks being grabbed at. Rear limbs are vulnerable. Besides, the stomach doesn't ACTUALLY have armor plating IIRC, that was a minsinterpretation. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 28, 2019 8:01:21 GMT 5
The stomach has armor plating, and if it goes for the limbs it risks being grabbed at. Rear limbs are vulnerable. Besides, the stomach doesn't ACTUALLY have armor plating IIRC, that was a minsinterpretation. Ninja'd. See my above post for this |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 8:46:04 GMT 5
but the pirahna doesn't really have much of a gape
depends how good the ankylosaur is at swimming
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Post by kekistani on Dec 28, 2019 9:41:58 GMT 5
but the pirahna doesn't really have much of a gape depends how good the ankylosaur is at swimming It's not the gape, it's the bite itself. Piranha teeth are built to slice, and they dice up very large animals (pigs and cow) as well as larger fish fine. The fish can and will target the unarmoured portions of the ankylosaur. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 28, 2019 15:23:38 GMT 5
I believe the ankylosaur is a comparable swimmer to a turtle - moderate, to say the least.
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Post by kekistani on Dec 28, 2019 21:42:37 GMT 5
I believe the ankylosaur is a comparable swimmer to a turtle - moderate, to say the least. Foot design and body shape say otherwise. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 28, 2019 22:29:13 GMT 5
I mean, its body design is very similar to a turtle - who are pretty good at swimming.
If it has webbed feet, that would help. If not, we need shallower water.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 22:39:29 GMT 5
kekistani, any impressive 1v1 feats from a pirahna. I feel that they are kinda the equivalent of vultures in the amazon rather than the lions which are the dorados and the catfish
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Post by kekistani on Dec 29, 2019 8:58:39 GMT 5
kekistani, any impressive 1v1 feats from a pirahna. I feel that they are kinda the equivalent of vultures in the amazon rather than the lions which are the dorados and the catfish *Dorados and Airapaima. Catfish usually scavenge, they are in fact known as 'Water Vultures'.
As for impressive 1V1 feats, no, because Piranhas never attack something IRL without numbers. Still not changing my stance.
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Post by kekistani on Dec 29, 2019 9:00:31 GMT 5
I mean, its body design is very similar to a turtle - who are pretty good at swimming. If it has webbed feet, that would help. If not, we need shallower water. The body design also has a soft underbelly and shows no evidence of webbed feet. The body plant of turtles is quite different-The shell actually provides streamlining, unlike liaoningosaurus' armored back. The legs on turtles are differently designed (flat and flexible for paddling) and are optimized for swimming. I see no evidence of that in Liaoningosaurus.
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