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Post by kekistani on Dec 29, 2019 9:04:06 GMT 5
Dinosaurs in general are thought to have had very good stamina due to advanced respiration, and Liaoningosaurus would be more armored than a turtle - thicker, less rigid, and not in such a way that one bite would shatter it like turtle shells. The superior durability and similar weapons lean me to the dino. Otters don't 'shatter' turtleshells-they basically exhaust the turtle by pulling it under over and over until they can't swim and they drown. Giant otters can kill Caiman in family groups, so I see no reason for one otter to have trouble with this dinosaur. Not to mention that unlike a Turtle, Liaoningosaurus does not have a plastron protecting it from belly attacks. The otter wins. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 29, 2019 16:59:10 GMT 5
The problem with using a giant otter as a matchup - too uncertain. Liaoningosaurus would either be too large or too small for it as we do not know its adult size. Not to mention, this thread is getting a bit too much unrelated debating; I for my part will drop it at least here.
As for the lack of armor, shallow water could level the playing field a bit - making up for the dinos' lesser aquatic skills and no armor.
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Post by kekistani on Dec 30, 2019 3:13:55 GMT 5
The problem with using a giant otter as a matchup - too uncertain. Liaoningosaurus would either be too large or too small for it as we do not know its adult size. Not to mention, this thread is getting a bit too much unrelated debating; I for my part will drop it at least here. As for the lack of armor, shallow water could level the playing field a bit - making up for the dinos' lesser aquatic skills and no armor. In shallow water the Piranha can still target the dinosaur's legs. |
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Post by elosha11 on Dec 30, 2019 17:24:50 GMT 5
I'm surprised no one's focused on the individual piranha's behavior as this is a one on one contest. Accepting the assumption eluded to earlier in this thread -- that individual piranha are relatively placid and may be killed/dominated by fish like cichlids (which can be very aggressive fish), why would we believe an individual piranha would aggressively attack liaoningosaurus with intent to kill. I could see a shoal doing that. One solitary piranha, not so much.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 30, 2019 18:56:30 GMT 5
The problem with using a giant otter as a matchup - too uncertain. Liaoningosaurus would either be too large or too small for it as we do not know its adult size. Not to mention, this thread is getting a bit too much unrelated debating; I for my part will drop it at least here. As for the lack of armor, shallow water could level the playing field a bit - making up for the dinos' lesser aquatic skills and no armor. In shallow water the Piranha can still target the dinosaur's legs. Depends on its mobility and the water depth - a fair fight would probably be enough water to give the ankylosaur a chance to retaliate without being blitzed. elosha11, well, you may have a point. The dino is probably vulnerable with less or no armor, but the piranha's attitude may give it more chance |
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Post by kekistani on Dec 31, 2019 2:15:33 GMT 5
In shallow water the Piranha can still target the dinosaur's legs. Depends on its mobility and the water depth - a fair fight would probably be enough water to give the ankylosaur a chance to retaliate without being blitzed. elosha11 , well, you may have a point. The dino is probably vulnerable with less or no armor, but the piranha's attitude may give it more chance So around 3 inches of water? Because if the ankylosaur is swimming there is nothing really stopping the Piranha if t wants to bite. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Dec 31, 2019 17:26:48 GMT 5
Depends on its mobility and the water depth - a fair fight would probably be enough water to give the ankylosaur a chance to retaliate without being blitzed. elosha11 , well, you may have a point. The dino is probably vulnerable with less or no armor, but the piranha's attitude may give it more chance So around 3 inches of water? Because if the ankylosaur is swimming there is nothing really stopping the Piranha if t wants to bite. Maybe 5-7 cm or so, yes |
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Post by kekistani on Dec 31, 2019 22:51:41 GMT 5
So around 3 inches of water? Because if the ankylosaur is swimming there is nothing really stopping the Piranha if t wants to bite. Maybe 5-7 cm or so, yes so the dinosaur only has a chance in water the piranha can't fully submerge itself in.
forty keks
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 1, 2020 0:10:43 GMT 5
I get it! Good one.
I did not know Liaoningosaurus was not a good swimmer when I posted this, to be fair.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Jan 2, 2020 4:06:23 GMT 5
I thought i had left a comment about the timid nature of individual pirhana before Elosha commented, but apparently not, damn it. I also don't think the average weight for them is 1.3kg, that kind of seems high to me for some reason.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 6:42:59 GMT 5
honestly, there's just too much unknown about the ankylosaur, my initial impression was that it was like an otter or water bug in that it was an adept swimmer and also had armor, but seeing that it doesn't have good swimming, a pirahna can certainly win.
That said, I'm still very skeptical of the pirahna's individual capabilities
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 7, 2020 10:11:52 GMT 5
Well, true. Just too many unknown variables - as you said, swimming ability is a mystery as is adult size.
A lone piranha';s fighting skills are iffy too.
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