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Post by dinosauria101 on Mar 16, 2019 17:24:45 GMT 5
Yes, you are correct there also.
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Post by arethousleepy on Mar 21, 2019 3:17:23 GMT 5
Utahraptor wins on average and parity weights for reasons other members mentioned above.
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Post by elosha11 on Mar 21, 2019 11:29:04 GMT 5
Utahraptor wins even against a "trophy" bear. The mammal is probably ~1000lbs  So do you all think this (which was the most recent size comparison in this thread) is the most accurate. Granted the feathers probably add some visual bulkiness to the dinosaur, but it still looks both dimensionally way larger and heavier. And the head and jaws seem so much bigger than the bear. I don't even know how the bear would grapple with such a bigger animal with fearsome jaws and claws. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Mar 21, 2019 11:47:07 GMT 5
Yeah, I think that's a pretty good analogy elosha. Utahraptor's got every advantage over the bear here.
On a side note, I kinda doubt Utahraptor had feathers, considering its size and robustness. Besides, we have no evidence of feathers from it.
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Post by theropod on Mar 21, 2019 19:28:47 GMT 5
9m Yutyrannus was found with an extensive coat of large feathers. Utahraptor-sized Concavenator shows probable evidence of feathers as well. Large and robust mammals also retain a dense fur. Phylogenetic bracketing based on close relatives unambiguously implies Utahraptor was feathered. This constitutes evidence or feathers. There is no serious scientific doubt about it, the only argument against feathers already having been invalidated repeatedly and all.
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Post by elosha11 on Mar 21, 2019 19:45:53 GMT 5
^Thanks for that insight theropod, and great to see you posting. Was the Yutyrannus considered to be fully covered, or was its coat bare in some places? And what do you think as to if/how much T-Rex was feathered?
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Post by creature386 on Mar 21, 2019 20:58:33 GMT 5
Yeah, I think that's a pretty good analogy elosha. Utahraptor's got every advantage over the bear here. On a side note, I kinda doubt Utahraptor had feathers, considering its size and robustness. Besides, we have no evidence of feathers from it. I've just googled for furless mammals (as there are more of them in Utahraptor's size-range than birds) and nearly all of them are either bred by humans to have no fur, adapted to special circumstances where fur would be a hindrance (burrowing or swimming) or significantly larger and bulkier than Utahraptor. So, nothing in Utahraptor's ecology suggest against feathers. EDIT: There's of course also ourselves, but why we are the naked mole rats of the primate world is poorly understood. If Utahraptor was ever found to be furless, it would be a similar mystery. |
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Post by elosha11 on Mar 21, 2019 21:19:49 GMT 5
Creature386 and Theropod. You both mentioned fur as well as feathers. Is there reason to believe dino feathers may have been different than bird feathers and more closely akin to mammal fur? I'm no expert on this, but I had thought from a few articles I read on fossilized dino "feathers" that they were quite similar to modern feathers.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Mar 21, 2019 23:24:20 GMT 5
^Concavenator does not have feathers. That was debunked in its profile here.
And yeah, I brought that up pretty much because looking back, it was what I had been hearing on Carnivora. Suppose Utahraptor could have had feathers after all.
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Post by rock on Apr 11, 2019 17:31:23 GMT 5
i want to say polar bear because its my third favariote animal , but i am afraid the utahraptor would win , he is just too big for any modren day bear to take on , perhaps a cave bear stands more of a chance?
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Post by dinosauria101 on Apr 11, 2019 20:23:31 GMT 5
No, that wouldn't be much different
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Post by rock on Apr 11, 2019 21:29:59 GMT 5
No, that wouldn't be much different yes sadly a utahraptor stomps a cave bear too . a arctotherium could stand more of chance IMO |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Apr 12, 2019 3:07:11 GMT 5
Even then, I'd still favor Utahraptor. The bear is actually 590 kg, about 50-100 kg smaller than Utahraptor
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Post by rock on Apr 12, 2019 5:24:49 GMT 5
in that fight i would favor the artcotheruim , those claws would put a hurt on the utahraptor
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Post by dinosauria101 on Apr 12, 2019 5:27:21 GMT 5
And I could also say the same vice versa. Utahraptor's claws would be significantly more deadly.
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