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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 27, 2020 19:13:24 GMT 5
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Post by kekistani on Jan 27, 2020 20:36:35 GMT 5
What the ACTUAL HELL. Pitbull stomps.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 27, 2020 20:46:30 GMT 5
I wouldn't call this a mismatch - the foxes very much have the weaponry to win, have numbers on their side, and are likely more agile. This is by no means a stomp for the pitbull.
Having said that, I lean towards the pitbull as well. It can probably kill a fox with 1 bite, is very durable, and has good jaws of its own.
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Post by kekistani on Jan 27, 2020 21:05:31 GMT 5
I wouldn't call this a mismatch - the foxes very much have the weaponry to win, have numbers on their side, and are likely more agile. This is by no means a stomp for the pitbull. Having said that, I lean towards the pitbull as well. It can probably kill a fox with 1 bite, is very durable, and has good jaws of its own. Pitbulls 1v1 boar 2-3X larger than themselves and win. The fox is a light carnivore that cannot really fight the pitbull.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 27, 2020 21:57:47 GMT 5
I wouldn't call this a mismatch - the foxes very much have the weaponry to win, have numbers on their side, and are likely more agile. This is by no means a stomp for the pitbull. Having said that, I lean towards the pitbull as well. It can probably kill a fox with 1 bite, is very durable, and has good jaws of its own. Pitbulls 1v1 boar 2-3X larger than themselves and win. The fox is a light carnivore that cannot really fight the pitbull. Just because the pitbull can kill a boar and the foxes cannot doesn't mean the pitbull stomps. Surely the foxes are physically capable to win, right?
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Post by kekistani on Jan 28, 2020 0:07:04 GMT 5
Pitbulls 1v1 boar 2-3X larger than themselves and win. The fox is a light carnivore that cannot really fight the pitbull. Just because the pitbull can kill a boar and the foxes cannot doesn't mean the pitbull stomps. Surely the foxes are physically capable to win, right? No. Just, no.
Boar are as dangerous (i'd wager more dangerous, actually) one-on-one than any wolf. Their bite is terrifically painful and dangerous not counting the goring tusks. The also get huge and move very fast. Their hide is tough and covered in bristle like hair. If a pitbull can kill a boar one-on-one and come off for the better, I see no reason to give the foxes any sort of realistic chance against this foe. It's not about if the foxes can kill a boar or not, it's about the fact that the pitbull can attack and kill adversaries as dangerous as the boar.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 28, 2020 0:28:20 GMT 5
Just because the pitbull can kill a boar and the foxes cannot doesn't mean the pitbull stomps. Surely the foxes are physically capable to win, right? No. Just, no.
Boar are as dangerous (i'd wager more dangerous, actually) one-on-one than any wolf. Their bite is terrifically painful and dangerous not counting the goring tusks. The also get huge and move very fast. Their hide is tough and covered in bristle like hair. If a pitbull can kill a boar one-on-one and come off for the better, I see no reason to give the foxes any sort of realistic chance against this foe. It's not about if the foxes can kill a boar or not, it's about the fact that the pitbull can attack and kill adversaries as dangerous as the boar.
I meant neither of those. The foxes are physically capable to win and will not get annihilated instantly, so this is not a mismatch.
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Post by kekistani on Jan 28, 2020 2:06:43 GMT 5
No. Just, no.
Boar are as dangerous (i'd wager more dangerous, actually) one-on-one than any wolf. Their bite is terrifically painful and dangerous not counting the goring tusks. The also get huge and move very fast. Their hide is tough and covered in bristle like hair. If a pitbull can kill a boar one-on-one and come off for the better, I see no reason to give the foxes any sort of realistic chance against this foe. It's not about if the foxes can kill a boar or not, it's about the fact that the pitbull can attack and kill adversaries as dangerous as the boar.
I meant neither of those. The foxes are physically capable to win and will not get annihilated instantly, so this is not a mismatch. No, that's the point. The foxes are not physically capable to win. The dog needs just one bite to kill a fox, it can outrun them, and it is bulkier by a large margin. The foxes will lose by a far margin in a short matter of time.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 28, 2020 2:40:14 GMT 5
I meant neither of those. The foxes are physically capable to win and will not get annihilated instantly, so this is not a mismatch. No, that's the point. The foxes are not physically capable to win. The dog needs just one bite to kill a fox, it can outrun them, and it is bulkier by a large margin. The foxes will lose by a far margin in a short matter of time. They are capable - several bites from the foxes can cause serious damage, they have numbers, and while the pitbull is both bulkier and able to oneshot a fox, the lighter builds of the foxes can help them with agility which would in turn help them to inflict damage without getting caught.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 3:19:17 GMT 5
you'd need coyotes at the very least loll
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Post by kekistani on Jan 28, 2020 3:26:08 GMT 5
No, that's the point. The foxes are not physically capable to win. The dog needs just one bite to kill a fox, it can outrun them, and it is bulkier by a large margin. The foxes will lose by a far margin in a short matter of time. And the pitbull can wipe the foxes in quick succession. Hit-and-run isn't viable against a large dog like this which has the endurance, agility and speed to chase fast and maneuverable large game through dense forest.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 28, 2020 3:53:47 GMT 5
1: And the pitbull can wipe the foxes in quick succession. 2: Hit-and-run isn't viable against a large dog like this which has the endurance, agility and speed to chase fast and maneuverable large game through dense forest. 1: It can, when it catches them. I would expect the numbers and agility of the foxes to help them. 2: Actually a combo of mobbing and hit-and-run. The pitbull is indeed fast and agile, the foxes just moreso
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Post by kekistani on Jan 28, 2020 10:15:49 GMT 5
1: It can, when it catches them. I would expect the numbers and agility of the foxes to help them. 2: Actually a combo of mobbing and hit-and-run. The pitbull is indeed fast and agile, the foxes just moreso Mobbing and Hit-and run doesn't work an animals like the pitbull. The pitbull is designed to turn and round about very quickly (this was necessary for a breed built to fight in pits). It is also incredibly fast. The numbers of foxes would help pad out the slaughter length a bit more. The pitbull, being on the defensive, will exhaust less energy and can finish its foe with one bite to any part of the body sans the tail and ears. The foxes cannot.
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Post by 6f5e4d on Jan 28, 2020 11:47:45 GMT 5
The weight of the foxes barely passes the terrier, but the terrier is still a larger opponent with stronger jaws for victory.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 28, 2020 18:23:21 GMT 5
1: It can, when it catches them. I would expect the numbers and agility of the foxes to help them. 2: Actually a combo of mobbing and hit-and-run. The pitbull is indeed fast and agile, the foxes just moreso Mobbing and Hit-and run doesn't work an animals like the pitbull. The pitbull is designed to turn and round about very quickly (this was necessary for a breed built to fight in pits). It is also incredibly fast. The numbers of foxes would help pad out the slaughter length a bit more. The pitbull, being on the defensive, will exhaust less energy and can finish its foe with one bite to any part of the body sans the tail and ears. The foxes cannot. You know what, you might have a point after all. Maybe I should have used 4-5 foxes instead of just 3.
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