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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 4, 2020 18:12:10 GMT 5
Paraceratherium bugtiense  pics.livejournal.com/rom_diz/pic/0000heasOrder: Perissodactyla Family: Hyracodontidae Height: 4.2 to possibly 4.8 meters Mass: 11 tonnes, possibly up to 17 Diet: Plants Age and Location: 37 to 23 million years ago, Eocene to Oligocene, Pakistan Killing apparatus: Kicks(?), weight The largest rhinoceros ever to live. Did not have horns like modern rhinoceros do. Allosaurus fragilis (pack of 3)  upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Allosaurus_BW.jpgOrder: Theropoda Family: Allosauridae Length: 8.5-9.7 meters Mass: 2-3.2 tonnes Diet: Other dinosaurs Age and Location: 150 million years ago, Late Jurassic, United States, Portugal, and Tanzania Killing apparatus: Slicing jaws, manual and pedal claws One of the most well-known of Jurassic theropods. Had a very large gape and is thought to have hunted in packs. |
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Post by denis on Feb 4, 2020 20:49:27 GMT 5
Favoring Paraceratherium, Allosaurus axe attack were mainly used on smaller prey. Yes it can bites and rip flesh out, Mapusaurus from Planet Dinosaur style, but over all Paraceratherium is going to die from the injuries.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 4, 2020 21:02:45 GMT 5
What makes you say that? Allosaurus is quite well suited for attacking much larger prey; that axebite can be used in combination with the large forearms, for instance, to grab onto the flanks of a prey item then deliver lifethreatening injuries. That would be very efficient here.
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Post by denis on Feb 4, 2020 21:05:10 GMT 5
What makes you say that? Allosaurus is quite well suited for attacking much larger prey; that axebite can be used in combination with the large forearms, for instance, to grab onto the flanks of a prey item then deliver lifethreatening injuries. That would be very efficient here. What your forgetting Allosaurs mainly hunt prey smaller than themselves, by themselves at least. Also grabbing on to flanks? Doubt that, they weren’t design for that. |
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Post by kekistani on Feb 4, 2020 21:20:14 GMT 5
What makes you say that? Allosaurus is quite well suited for attacking much larger prey; that axebite can be used in combination with the large forearms, for instance, to grab onto the flanks of a prey item then deliver lifethreatening injuries. That would be very efficient here. What your forgetting Allosaurs mainly hunt prey smaller than themselves, by themselves at least. Also grabbing on to flanks? Doubt that, they weren’t design for that. That's the thing, they have a group here. A group of predators as large as these is an issue for any large herbivore. Besides, if the fight were to go down, the Allosaurs would use their slashing downward-strike to hack off bits of the legs and sides to wear down the giant mammal. Even worse is that Paraceratherium doesn't have the defenses that sauropods would possess, as size was its only defence (hence why it grew so big compared to other similar animals). |
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Post by denis on Feb 4, 2020 21:21:21 GMT 5
What your forgetting Allosaurs mainly hunt prey smaller than themselves, by themselves at least. Also grabbing on to flanks? Doubt that, they weren’t design for that. That's the thing, they have a group here. A group of predators as large as these is an issue for any large herbivore. Besides, if the fight were to go down, the Allosaurs would use their slashing downward-strike to hack off bits of the legs and sides to wear down the giant mamma. Biting the back legs isn’t a good idea. Biting the stomach area, however may be a good place to strike but Paraceratherium wasn’t a defenseless animal. |
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Post by kekistani on Feb 4, 2020 21:23:43 GMT 5
That's the thing, they have a group here. A group of predators as large as these is an issue for any large herbivore. Besides, if the fight were to go down, the Allosaurs would use their slashing downward-strike to hack off bits of the legs and sides to wear down the giant mamma. Biting the back legs isn’t a good idea. Biting the stomach area, however may be a good place to strike but Paraceratherium wasn’t a defenseless animal. Attacking the legs from the side would be safer. See the Planet Dinosaur scene with the mapusaurs for an idea of how a side-on attack would work. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 4, 2020 21:39:06 GMT 5
This may be helpful. Paraceratherium by Greg Paul and Allosaurus fragilis by Hartman.  |
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Post by denis on Feb 4, 2020 21:53:30 GMT 5
This may be helpful. Paraceratherium by Greg Paul and Allosaurus fragilis by Hartman. Allosaurus by Franoys:  Paraceratherium by Asier Larramendi  |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 4, 2020 21:54:37 GMT 5
This may be helpful. Paraceratherium by Greg Paul and Allosaurus fragilis by Hartman. Allosaurus by Franoys: Paraceratherium by Asier Larramendi This was using the mean size of known fossils; if needed, I can make one for max. The images in your post are a mean-size Allosaurus and the biggest Paraceratherium. |
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Post by kekistani on Feb 8, 2020 6:45:33 GMT 5
Favoring Paraceratherium, Allosaurus axe attack were mainly used on smaller prey. Yes it can bites and rip flesh out, Mapusaurus from Planet Dinosaur style, but over all Paraceratherium is going to die from the injuries. >Favoring Paraceratherium >Begins to make argument about why Allosaurus attacks won't result in a win for the Allosaurs >Ends with Paraceratherium dying from wounds inflicted by allosaurs
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Post by denis on Feb 8, 2020 9:44:06 GMT 5
Favoring Paraceratherium, Allosaurus axe attack were mainly used on smaller prey. Yes it can bites and rip flesh out, Mapusaurus from Planet Dinosaur style, but over all Paraceratherium is going to die from the injuries. >Favoring Paraceratherium >Begins to make argument about why Allosaurus attacks won't result in a win for the Allosaurs >Ends with Paraceratherium dying from wounds inflicted by allosaurs
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Post by kekistani on Feb 8, 2020 9:46:45 GMT 5
>Favoring Paraceratherium >Begins to make argument about why Allosaurus attacks won't result in a win for the Allosaurs >Ends with Paraceratherium dying from wounds inflicted by allosaurs
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There’s a thing called more than one possibility Of course, but the wording is extremely bizarre |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 8, 2020 17:32:06 GMT 5
So for Denis, who do you now favor?
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Post by 6f5e4d on Feb 11, 2020 1:36:10 GMT 5
A tough decision, but Allosaurus are adapted to hunting larger sauropods, so Paraceratherium, which is as large as some of the smaller sauropods, won't stand a chance against the Allosaurus pack.
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