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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 13, 2020 17:01:06 GMT 5
In your opinion, what's the biggest prey a tiger can kill and why? Discuss. TheLionBoymountainlordYou 2 may wish to participate. |
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Post by TheLionBoy on Feb 13, 2020 17:20:31 GMT 5
A tiger can kill single handedly kill a bull asian elephant 21.6 times their own weight
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 13, 2020 18:43:37 GMT 5
^That sounds like quite a bit. Why do you think so?
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Post by TheLionBoy on Feb 13, 2020 20:09:47 GMT 5
Divide 5000 by the average weight of a male tiger
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 13, 2020 21:24:49 GMT 5
No, I meant a tiger being able to kill a full grown elephant seems like quite a lot. Do you have any accounts of it?
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Post by TheLionBoy on Feb 13, 2020 21:41:02 GMT 5
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 13, 2020 21:47:04 GMT 5
Hm...I wonder what mountainlord has to say about them, since they posted them.
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Post by mountainlord on Feb 13, 2020 23:56:12 GMT 5
Hm...I wonder what mountainlord has to say about them, since they posted them.
I have already posted the accounts before. This is not debatable, its a known fact that tigers have and are well capable of killing adult Bull elephants. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 14, 2020 0:07:56 GMT 5
Pretty impressive, I must say!
In a head on fight, I'd favor the elephant 9/10, but the tiger is CAPABLE.
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Post by mountainlord on Feb 14, 2020 0:18:29 GMT 5
Pretty impressive, I must say! In a head on fight, I'd favor the elephant 9/10, but the tiger is CAPABLE.
Sometimes tigers even attack and maul the trunk of the elephant, dig their claws in, which is very, very painful for elephants. I've read numerous accounts of this happening.
Some Bull tusker elephants have been severely mauled by tigers.
In an enclosed space, the fight favours the elephant. But in an open jungle setting, the fight favours the tiger. Elephants are much larger, slower and much more cumbersome compared to tigers, once the tiger gets onto the elephants back and starts to maul it, its very hard for the elephant to get the tiger off. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 14, 2020 0:30:13 GMT 5
You do have a point there. I could definitely see a tiger wearing down large prey like that with a hit and run.
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Post by mountainlord on Feb 14, 2020 0:48:48 GMT 5
Exactly. In an open space, the tiger being much smaller, much faster and much more maneuverable compared to the much larger and slower elephant, it can just jump on the elephants back and maul it.
This is what happens when these two titans collide in the jungle.
In a head-on fight, its easy for the tiger to evade the elephants charge and jump on its back. Even attack and maul its trunk.
There's an account of an elephant that died from injuries to its trunk, it received in a fight with a tigress.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 14, 2020 2:08:55 GMT 5
Interesting, a tigress! How big was the elephant?
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Post by TheLionBoy on Feb 14, 2020 2:38:42 GMT 5
Big as an adult elephant
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Post by Life on Feb 14, 2020 19:00:30 GMT 5
In your opinion, what's the biggest prey a tiger can kill and why? Discuss. TheLionBoy mountainlord You 2 may wish to participate. Take a look at 'prey preferences' of the Tigers at large.  SOURCE of Figure 2: zslpublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1469-7998.2011.00871.x"Tigers Panthera tigris continue to decline despite the best efforts of the worldwide scientific and conservation communities. Prey depletion has been linked to this decline, but a clear definition of what constitutes preferred prey and preferred prey weight range does not exist. This is critical information if we are to assess tiger reintroduction potential, monitor unforeseen poaching of predators and prey, and successfully conserve the species. Here we reviewed the available literature on tiger diet and prey availability and calculated Jacobs's electivity index scores from 3187 kills or scats of 32 prey species. We found that wild boar and sambar deer are significantly preferred by tigers, with red deer and barasingha likely to be significantly preferred also with a larger sample size. Prey body mass was the only variable that related to tiger prey preference with species weighing between 60 and 250 kg preferred by tigers yielding a ratio of predator to preferred prey of 1:1, which is similar to other solitary felids. This information can be used to predict tiger diet, carrying capacity and movement patterns, as it has been for Africa's large predator guild, and has important implications for tiger conservation throughout its distribution."NOWTigers are definitely capable of killing animals larger than themselves such as Gaur. There are reports of Tigers taking their chances with Asian elephants in the Corbett National Park (Uttarakhand; India) but the big cats are going after juveniles mainly. For reference: www.oneindia.com/india/fact-check-are-tigers-eating-elephants-in-corbett-national-park-2909727.htmlMY VIEWAssuming an highly experienced and strong Tiger (male), it might be able to take on and subjugate an sub-adult Asian elephant. I do not rule out the possibility of a Tiger 'attacking' even an adult Asian elephant but this is much different from producing an actual KILL; ACCOUNTS of these trophic interactions "cannot be independently verified." Taking on a healthy adult elephant, even Asian, is energetically costly and risky move for 'any' macropredator in the wild. Just because Tigers are noticed feeding on the carcass of an adult Asian elephant, does not prove PREDATION; scavenging is always in the picture. A tiger can kill single handedly kill a bull asian elephant 21.6 times their own weight I would like to see relevant scientific data/statistics. Provide your own information. I do not appreciate posting links of other forums here. Thank you. ACCOUNTS = SUBJECTIVE Predators SCAVENGE as well. What is the size of an adult elephant? Which species of elephant? How do you define an ADULT elephant? I am expecting credible answers. I do not welcome YOUTUBE type comments in this forum. |
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