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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 22, 2020 21:04:40 GMT 5
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Post by kekistani on Feb 22, 2020 23:50:44 GMT 5
Asiatic black bears are smaller but more ferocious fighters than grizzlies IIRC. I give it 50/50.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 23, 2020 0:29:11 GMT 5
Yeah, they're pretty underrated - there's even an account of one maiming a much larger water buffalo. And of course, it brings several typical ursine advantages to the table, like stamina, strength and durability.
50/50 seems appropriate for me too.
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Post by brobear on Feb 23, 2020 2:15:35 GMT 5
Asiatic black bear boar vs Amur tigress - interesting. www.bearconservation.org.uk/ussuri-black-bear/ Accepted scientific name: Ursus thibetanus ussuricus (Pierre Marie Heude, 1901). Description: Also known as the Manchurian black bear (in South Korea). The largest of the Asiatic black bear subspecies. They have the characteristic cream or white “moon” collar of Asiatic black bears but have larger ears compared to the other subspecies. Males typically weigh up to 200 kilograms, females up to about 140 kilograms. 140 kg = 308.65 pounds. 137.5 kg = 303.14 pounds.  |
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Post by brobear on Feb 23, 2020 2:23:42 GMT 5
Asiatic black bear boar vs Amur tigress ( each at average weight ) is pretty-much a weight-parity fight. The tigress could kill the bear - in an ambush attack. In a face-to-face confrontation my money is on the bear.
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Feb 23, 2020 9:34:40 GMT 5
Asiatic black bears are smaller but more ferocious fighters than grizzlies IIRC. I give it 50/50. Asiatic black bears are more ferocious fighters than the American black bears. The most ferocious bears are the barren ground grizzlies followed by the Tibetan blue bears (offensively aggressive). The sloth bears are defensively aggressive. A grizzly bear would be more than aggressive than a Asiatic black bear given the former is an apex predator in its region and during the plastocene era (had to fight rather than flee due to its lack of climbing ability). Back to topic, a Bengal tigress can defeat and kill a female Asiatic black bear but the largest subspecies of male Asiatic black bear will win. |
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Post by brobear on Jun 26, 2020 20:27:51 GMT 5
The Big White V is a mark that can be clearly seen the chests of all of the smaller bear species of Asia. It is a big white mark ( sometimes a pale yellow ) usually resembling the letter "V" on the chest of the bear. Does this mark serve a purpose? Yes it does. The Big White V is a warning sign to tigers or other big cats. The tiger ( like all cats ) is an ambush predator. His hunting method is to get as close as possible to his unsuspecting prey, then launch an attack from the rear or to one side. The tiger will not attack a bear that is facing him. This big V is a sign that warns the tiger that the bear can see him and knows he is there. This might save the bear from a very dangerous situation. I have noticed that many American black bears have rudimentary white markings on their chests. Leftovers from when there were multiple big cat species in N. America during the Pleistocene. Not as often, but some grizzlies also show fragments of those leftover markings. Might it be that the Pleistocene grizzly had a big white V on his chest?    |
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Post by brobear on Jun 26, 2020 20:31:01 GMT 5
To be honest, in a face-off, my money is on a big boar black bear against a big male tiger.  |
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Post by brobear on Jun 26, 2020 20:33:00 GMT 5
Asiatic black bears are smaller but more ferocious fighters than grizzlies IIRC. I give it 50/50. At weight parity, a barren ground grizzly would tear an Asiatic black bear to pieces. Not even a contest. |
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Post by reeper on Oct 4, 2020 19:24:49 GMT 5
To be honest, in a face-off, my money is on a big boar black bear against a big male tiger.
In every single fight to the death account, from the wild, between a male tiger and large male black bear, the bear was killed and eaten in every single case.
The best a big male black bear would do is put up a good fight, but as always, in a fight to the death, the big male bear is doomed to be the tigers dinner. History and evidence speaks for itself.
In a face-off, a tigress will kill an Asiatic black bear. Overall, the tigress has more advantages. She's much faster, more powerful, much better equipped for killing, more agile and has a much more devastating bite.
Referring to fights and encounters between tigers and black bears:
"Whenever they meet, unless the bear see's the tiger in time to take to a tree, a fight to the death is to be assumed. The tiger is usually the winner, and for the most part is content with killing the bear and leaving his remains to the ants and jackals, but if hungry he sometimes makes his dinner off him."
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Oct 4, 2020 19:26:42 GMT 5
A male Ussuri brown bear is usually too heavy to climb trees once they reach a certain weight range. Black bears are the much better tree climbers.
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