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Post by velesoid on Feb 23, 2020 22:06:39 GMT 5
 upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Snakehead_-_Channa_argus_2.jpg/1024px-Snakehead_-_Channa_argus_2.jpg Order: Perciformes Family: Channidae Length: 100-150 cm Mass: 8 kg Diet: Fish, amphibians, reptiles, and birds Killing apparatus: Slicing jaws One of the largest snakeheads. Can breathe air. The distinguishing features of a northern snakehead include a long dorsal fin with 49–50 rays, an anal fin with 31–32 rays, a small, anteriorly depressed head, the eyes above the middle part of the upper jaw, a large mouth extending well beyond the eye, and villiform teeth in bands, with large canines on the lower jaw and palatines.  www.adventure-services.co.nzNew Zealand longfin eel (Anguilla dieffenbachii) Order: Anguilliformes Family: Anguillidae Length: 73 cm - 200 cm Mass: 10-20 kg Diet: basically anything that they can kill or consume such as fish, birds, carrion and even smaller land mammals Killing apparatus: hooked teeth, the eel latches onto the prey and performs powerful death rolls, tearing away chunks of flesh The easiest way to identify the longfin eel is by the length of its fins: the dorsal (top) fin is about two-thirds the length of the body and starts significantly further towards the head than the anal (bottom) fin. In the shortfin eel the fins are of similar length. When a longfin eel bends its loose skin wrinkles distinctively inside each bend, where a shortfin eel's skin is smooth. A longfin's mouth extends past its eyes, further than a shortfin's. |
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Post by velesoid on Feb 23, 2020 22:49:45 GMT 5
no takers?
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Post by kekistani on Feb 23, 2020 22:56:51 GMT 5
Oh bloody hell. Are we using avg, parity, or maximum? Both have vicious teeth and potentially vicious disposition.
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Post by velesoid on Feb 23, 2020 23:15:58 GMT 5
Oh bloody hell. Are we using avg, parity, or maximum? Both have vicious teeth and potentially vicious disposition. we are using average and maximum sizes! |
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Post by kekistani on Feb 23, 2020 23:33:42 GMT 5
Oh bloody hell. Are we using avg, parity, or maximum? Both have vicious teeth and potentially vicious disposition. we are using average and maximum sizes! Big kek
this is difficult. I have seen Northern (and giant, for that matter) snakeheads tear up baitfish and relatively large prey (15 inch northern snakehead killed a 12 inch tilapia) but the eel itself is a ferocious beast when it needs to be. On average I would give this to the snakehead-only exceptional longfin females get to the enormous 10-20KG weight and 8 foot of length (An acquaintance told me of eels 10 foot long!), but at maximum sizes I would say the longfin takes the cake due to the fact that despite having gripping teeth it can twist and roll like a snake to tear and rend flesh, along with the struggling action of anything caught in its jaws. Not to mention being over twice the weight of the maximum snakehead here.
Longfin at min-66 CM, 2-5KG (approx, based on european eel?)
Longfin at max-150-200CM, 20KG Avg length of female s around 115CM
Northern Snakehead at average-80-100CM? (100CM is the usual adult size, not sure if this implies a common upper roof or an average), 2-4KG Northern Snakehead at max-150CM, 8KG Avg length: ?100CM?
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Post by velesoid on Feb 23, 2020 23:48:56 GMT 5
we are using average and maximum sizes! Big kek
this is difficult. I have seen Northern (and giant, for that matter) snakeheads tear up baitfish and relatively large prey (15 inch northern snakehead killed a 12 inch tilapia) but the eel itself is a ferocious beast when it needs to be. On average I would give this to the snakehead-only exceptional longfin females get to the enormous 10-20KG weight and 8 foot of length (An acquaintance told me of eels 10 foot long!), but at maximum sizes I would say the longfin takes the cake due to the fact that despite having gripping teeth it can twist and roll like a snake to tear and rend flesh, along with the struggling action of anything caught in its jaws. Not to mention being over twice the weight of the maximum snakehead here.
Longfin at min-66 CM, 2-5KG (approx, based on european eel?)
Longfin at max-150-200CM, 20KG Avg length of female s around 115CM
Northern Snakehead at average-80-100CM? (100CM is the usual adult size, not sure if this implies a common upper roof or an average), 2-4KG Northern Snakehead at max-150CM, 8KG Avg length: ?100CM?
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not sure how true this is but longfin eels are said to be very hard to cut do to having a skin layer and scales underneath. they also seem like strong buggers if you ask me www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKlwFAgAQ9Uwww.youtube.com/watch?v=F6eqknNCqZo |
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Post by kekistani on Feb 23, 2020 23:59:09 GMT 5
Big kek
this is difficult. I have seen Northern (and giant, for that matter) snakeheads tear up baitfish and relatively large prey (15 inch northern snakehead killed a 12 inch tilapia) but the eel itself is a ferocious beast when it needs to be. On average I would give this to the snakehead-only exceptional longfin females get to the enormous 10-20KG weight and 8 foot of length (An acquaintance told me of eels 10 foot long!), but at maximum sizes I would say the longfin takes the cake due to the fact that despite having gripping teeth it can twist and roll like a snake to tear and rend flesh, along with the struggling action of anything caught in its jaws. Not to mention being over twice the weight of the maximum snakehead here.
Longfin at min-66 CM, 2-5KG (approx, based on european eel?)
Longfin at max-150-200CM, 20KG Avg length of female s around 115CM
Northern Snakehead at average-80-100CM? (100CM is the usual adult size, not sure if this implies a common upper roof or an average), 2-4KG Northern Snakehead at max-150CM, 8KG Avg length: ?100CM?
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IDK about scales beneath the skin or longfins in particular, but other anguilliform eels are very tough to cut into with a knife blade. IDK why, maybe there IS a secondary layer of skin or perhaps the skin itself is just tough. demonstrates the advantage of being as flexible as an eel-you can twist and turn to tear stuff demonstrates the ferocious power of the eel's jaws and the strength of the animal itself to slow down a fast swimming trout. |
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Post by velesoid on Feb 24, 2020 0:15:13 GMT 5
IDK about scales beneath the skin or longfins in particular, but other anguilliform eels are very tough to cut into with a knife blade. IDK why, maybe there IS a secondary layer of skin or perhaps the skin itself is just tough. possible, i heard their skin being compared to cow leather, which is frankly crazy. it is almost funny in a way, eels are not fast swimmers but are quite obviously strong as hell, sort of like a constrictor snake the trout likely weights significantly more than the eel too. these things are nigh-fearless and unexpectedly aggressive |
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Post by velesoid on Feb 24, 2020 1:18:22 GMT 5
And i was right. Eel skin is used in making eel leather, so it is pretty damn tough.
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Post by kekistani on Feb 24, 2020 2:14:03 GMT 5
It is also very tough to chew, though quite good eating. Well, their design basically encases the organs and ribs in muscle, and a good portion of that body itself is thin bones surrounded by muscle. Well, they evolved in a place where there were no other large freshwater carnivores. They are New Zealand's equivalent of crocodiles in Australia. |
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Post by kekistani on Feb 24, 2020 2:23:29 GMT 5
And i was right. Eel skin is used in making eel leather, so it is pretty damn tough. River monsters has a report where an exceptionally large specimen cracked a man's ribs by ramming into him |
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Post by velesoid on Feb 24, 2020 2:41:41 GMT 5
And i was right. Eel skin is used in making eel leather, so it is pretty damn tough. River monsters has a report where an exceptionally large specimen cracked a man's ribs by ramming into him yikes, their jaws also seem fairly strong www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx_wl-l8_tI2:16 a ~4 foot eel easily latches onto jeremys hand and hangs from it while doing a deathroll. www.stuff.co.nz/national/101089414/monster-eel-of-te-henui-stream-strikes-againplus an actual documented attack based on all of this i would favor the eel even at parity i have eaten European eels, it is preferable to skin them since the skin makes them hard to cook the big muscular cord it is then their feeding response is crazy, the same goes for their Australian cousin, the marbled eel. |
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Post by kekistani on Feb 24, 2020 2:48:05 GMT 5
River monsters has a report where an exceptionally large specimen cracked a man's ribs by ramming into him yikes, their jaws also seem fairly strong www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx_wl-l8_tI2:16 a ~4 foot eel easily latches onto jeremys hand and hangs from it while doing a deathroll. www.stuff.co.nz/national/101089414/monster-eel-of-te-henui-stream-strikes-againplus an actual documented attack based on all of this i would favor the eel even at parity i have eaten European eels, it is preferable to skin them since the skin makes them hard to cook the big muscular cord it is then their feeding response is crazy, the same goes for their Australian cousin, the marbled eel. Agreed
Also, are marbled eel found in australia? I thought they ere an asian species,
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Post by velesoid on Feb 24, 2020 3:12:05 GMT 5
Agreed
Also, are marbled eel found in australia? I thought they ere an asian species,
The speckled longfin eel, Australian long-finned eel or marbled eel (Anguilla reinhardtii) can be found in australia. Not to be mistaken with the giant mottled eel (Anguilla marmorata), also known as the marbled eel. |
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Post by kekistani on Feb 24, 2020 4:32:50 GMT 5
Agreed
Also, are marbled eel found in australia? I thought they ere an asian species,
The speckled longfin eel, Australian long-finned eel or marbled eel (Anguilla reinhardtii) can be found in australia. Not to be mistaken with the giant mottled eel (Anguilla marmorata), also known as the marbled eel. Ah KK |
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