Huanghetitan spp. vs. Triceratops horridus

[dinosauria101]

Huanghetitan spp.

www.deviantart.com/spinoinwonderland/art/Huanghetitan-ruyangensis-311670737

Order: Sauropoda
Family: Titanosauriformes
Length: 12-24 to 26-30 meters, depending on species
Mass: 3-30 to 37-73 tonnes, depending on species
Diet: Plants
Age and Location: 110 million years ago, Early Cretaceous, China.
Weapons: Pedal claws, tail slapping, spike osteoderms(?)
One of the largest dinosaurs from Asia. Had a relatively deep ribcage.

Triceratops horridus

fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/150/b/6/b64aa2e5bbf8f29377fe3a99b838e016-d3hmt69.jpg

Order: Ceratopsia
Family: Chasmosauridae
Length: 8-9 meters
Mass: 8.6-14 tonnes
Diet: Plants, possibly an omnivore.
Age and Location: Late Cretaceous, 65 million years ago, Canada and United States
Weapons: Horns, beak
One of the most famous dinosaurs and often featured in popular culture. Had a solid frill for protection and is often likened to a rhinoceros because of its horns.

[Infinity Blade]

So, assuming your mass figures for Huanghetitan are correct...

...it seems there are only two species of Huanghetitan. This means that the result of this match is indeed dichotomous; either Triceratops bulldozes a 3 tonne sauropod or gets bulldozed by a sauropod many times its size.

What made you think this was a good match?

[dinosauria101]

There are a few varying size figures for each species; IIRC around 3-30 tonnes for the smaller one and 37-73 for the bigger one, depending on how it is restored - therefore there is some middle ground for debatable matchups. I was planning on elaborating when someone had commented.

Here's some GDI's:
i.imgur.com/Srd1ASh.png
media.discordapp.net/attachments/226476084688846849/463639967063736331/HuanghetitanGDIresult.png?width=1025&height=369
(the 37 tonne sauropod still wins, though likely not a slaughter)

And for H. liujiaxianensis, Paleo King does give somewhat higher size figures for the holotype than indicated simply by the skeletal of it, which would suggest a possibly debatable match when scaling from his GDI of it:
paleoking.blogspot.com/2011/11/15-biggest-dinosaurs-youve-never-heard.html

If you still don't think all that makes this match viable, we can delete these comments and I'll post something else. But I thought that the varying size estimates for both species might make for a match with several possible outcomes and thus better than just 2 onesided fights.

[Infinity Blade]

the 37 tonne sauropod still wins, though likely not a slaughter

Even if I thought 14 tonne Triceratops was a thing (which for the record, I don't), yes, it still is.

I think we need to mention that just because there's a huge size range (e.g. 3-30 tonnes or 37-73 tonnes), that doesn't necessarily mean that any "middle ground" between those size ranges are actually likely. For example, it's possible that a bone scales either this way or another way, and any "middle ground" makes less sense than the two extremes. I'm not necessarily saying that's the case here, particularly for H. ruyangensis, just saying.

[dinosauria101]

Maybe 'not a slaughter' was an overstatement, but it is a lot better than 14 vs 73 tonnes.

As for which sizes in the size ranges are best? I'll do some asking around and scaling of my own, see what's best.
But yeah, maybe we should have less matches with animals whose sizes vary a hell of a lot.

[6f5e4d]

Huanghetitan is a sauropod, and sauropods with their large size always dominate in battles against ceratopsians, Triceratops doesn't stand a chance here.