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Post by velesoid on Mar 28, 2020 23:36:09 GMT 5
Saga ephippigera Order: Orthoptera Family: Tettigoniidae Length or height: body length up to 18 cm Mass: unknown Diet: carnivore, feeds on insects and small invertebrates Killing apparatus: jaws and spiked forelimbs  (newton.com) crested gecko Order: Squamata Family: Diplodactylidae Length or height: 15–25 cm Mass: up to 70 grams Diet: insectivore Killing apparatus: crushing jaws  (wiki user: Jazium) |
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Mar 29, 2020 2:47:43 GMT 5
Need a different gecko. Probably a wash for the Orthopteran. What? no.  They have small teeth and small jaw muscles unsuited to crush any armored prey items. I can think of a few species of geckos who can truly be desribed as possessing "crushing jaws", but the crested gecko is not one. They are omnivores leaning prominently towards frugivory than insectivory, even if insects take up a good portion of their dietary intake in the wild. |
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Post by velesoid on Mar 29, 2020 17:35:01 GMT 5
Need a different gecko. Probably a wash for the Orthopteran. What? no. They have small teeth and small jaw muscles unsuited to crush any armored prey items. I can think of a few species of geckos who can truly be desribed as possessing "crushing jaws", but the crested gecko is not one. They are omnivores leaning prominently towards frugivory than insectivory, even if insects take up a good portion of their dietary intake in the wild. they can still crunch on more soft bodied inverts, small teeth kinda mean that most damage comes from actual pressure |
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Post by 6f5e4d on Mar 29, 2020 22:25:53 GMT 5
This is a fight that might be hard to identify if not all the information is filled in.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Mar 29, 2020 22:30:14 GMT 5
So what if they can crunch on small soft bodied invertebrates? The orthopteran is not one of them.
Not when you have small jaw muscles it doesn't. They are not built to crush anything remotely resembling this predatory insect.
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Post by velesoid on Mar 29, 2020 22:40:17 GMT 5
So what if they can crunch on small soft bodied invertebrates? The orthopteran is not one of them. Not when you have small jaw muscles it doesn't. They are not built to crush anything remotely resembling this predatory insect. which gecko would be better then? tokay is clearly out of the question |
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Post by kekistani on Mar 29, 2020 23:21:39 GMT 5
So what if they can crunch on small soft bodied invertebrates? The orthopteran is not one of them. Not when you have small jaw muscles it doesn't. They are not built to crush anything remotely resembling this predatory insect. which gecko would be better then? tokay is clearly out of the question Leachianus, Duvacelli, Delcourti mayhaps? Almost all of the large southeast asian geckos are a stomp for the reptile (like Tokay). |
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Post by 6f5e4d on Mar 29, 2020 23:41:36 GMT 5
I guess this means Saga wins against the gecko then.
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Post by velesoid on Mar 30, 2020 0:11:46 GMT 5
I guess this means Saga wins against the gecko then. well no shit, some of them can weight half a kilo. |
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Mar 30, 2020 7:44:55 GMT 5
I personally wouldn't even go with a gecko.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Sept 18, 2020 2:58:45 GMT 5
It has been hard to find a good lateral skull view for a crested gecko to just show how lopsidedly unfair this would be, but i've found it.  The Orthopteran is - Better suited for macropredatory(in relation to body size) habits
- Better armed
- More durable and vastly more armored
Realistically i have a very, very hard time seeing a crested gecko even bothering the bush cricket with anything it does.
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