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Post by mechafire on Apr 15, 2024 18:08:05 GMT 5
Rhinoceros beetles have no real offensive ability. I am honestly not sure they could kill a large insect unless they kept pushing them against a hard surface or something. Stags do seem formidable but warrior beetles are probably more formidable on millagram per milligram basis. I suppose it depends on what one would consider a “win” condition. True, the most rhinoceros beetles would do most of the time is smack and toss their opponents, which, being insects, wouldn’t kill them. It’s the difference between a carnivore and a pure“fighter”. The former kills for food, while the latter is all about competition, fighting for mates and territory. Rhinoceros beetles and stage beetles aren’t as good at killing other insects, but in terms of holding their ground, asserting their will, and overpowering, I think they’re the best. They have the competitive drive to push through their opponents, armor to protect themselves, and their oversized weapons have the range to counter what other animals in their size range are packing. Like if a stage beetle and a warrior beetle were to fight, I can’t see the warrior getting past the stag’s iron defense. |
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Post by Supercommunist on May 1, 2024 6:01:02 GMT 5
Something I just realized, have you noticed that many predatory birds that use their beaks have to rely on prey bashing their prey on hard surfances to kill them (roadrunners, kookaburras, seriema) the only exceptions are the falcons which sever the spinal cord with their false teeth and wading birds that usually feed on much smaller animals.
I am inclined to think that the extinct terror birds would have been exceptions as well, but I think its possible they may have needed to develop such oversized beaks to compensate for the lower killing power beaks inherently have.
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Post by Supercommunist on May 23, 2024 4:04:06 GMT 5
Thoughts on macropredatory ichthyosaurs?
I know they produced the largest and most powerful predatory reptiles known so far, but on a pound for pound basis they don't seem all that impressive to me.
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Post by Supercommunist on May 26, 2024 6:09:51 GMT 5
Surprisingly good dino tier list, I have some issues with it like the claim a bear could usually beat a similar sized theropod and overrated elephants but a lot more accurate than some "animal" youtube channels. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns0PpRzEsKM |
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Post by razor45dino on May 27, 2024 4:14:16 GMT 5
Surprisingly good dino tier list, I have some issues with it like the claim a bear could usually beat a similar sized theropod and overrated elephants but a lot more accurate than some "animal" youtube channels. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns0PpRzEsKMarent most of these rankings based off size anyway |
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Post by razor45dino on May 27, 2024 4:15:08 GMT 5
Thoughts on macropredatory ichthyosaurs? I know they produced the largest and most powerful predatory reptiles known so far, but on a pound for pound basis they don't seem all that impressive to me. agreed. In absolute terms their bites may have been deadly, but I can't see it being on par with other macropredators with how thin they are |
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Post by Supercommunist on May 27, 2024 10:07:55 GMT 5
Surprisingly good dino tier list, I have some issues with it like the claim a bear could usually beat a similar sized theropod and overrated elephants but a lot more accurate than some "animal" youtube channels. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns0PpRzEsKMarent most of these rankings based off size anyway Sure. But look at how absurd some other dedicated animal vs animal youtube channels are. Some youtubers for instance think komodo dragon vs honey badger is something worth discussing. |
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Post by razor45dino on May 27, 2024 19:17:51 GMT 5
arent most of these rankings based off size anyway Sure. But look at how absurd some other dedicated animal vs animal youtube channels are. Some youtubers for instance think komodo dragon vs honey badger is something worth discussing. fair enough. but 90% of those kinds of channels are content farms |
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Post by Infinity Blade on May 28, 2024 5:28:37 GMT 5
Thoughts on macropredatory ichthyosaurs? I know they produced the largest and most powerful predatory reptiles known so far, but on a pound for pound basis they don't seem all that impressive to me. I think most of them just evolved the size and weaponry that was enough to prey on all the marine reptiles smaller than themselves and that was it. Most of them don't really look like they're well suited to prey on something similar in body mass to themselves (unless they damaged the fins or something), which isn't surprising since there really wasn't anything else in their time and place as big as them. So I agree with you. I wonder if the most robust snouted forms like Temnodontosaurus eurycephalus are exceptions, though.  |
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Post by Supercommunist on May 28, 2024 22:56:58 GMT 5
Thoughts on macropredatory ichthyosaurs? I know they produced the largest and most powerful predatory reptiles known so far, but on a pound for pound basis they don't seem all that impressive to me. I think most of them just evolved the size and weaponry that was enough to prey on all the marine reptiles smaller than themselves and that was it. Most of them don't really look like they're well suited to prey on something similar in body mass to themselves (unless they damaged the fins or something), which isn't surprising since there really wasn't anything else in their time and place as big as them. So I agree with you. I wonder if the most robust snouted forms like Temnodontosaurus eurycephalus are exceptions, though. T. eurycephalus skull looks more like a mosa's than an ichy. Probably around that level. |
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Post by Exalt on May 29, 2024 23:16:35 GMT 5
Thoughts on macropredatory ichthyosaurs? I know they produced the largest and most powerful predatory reptiles known so far, but on a pound for pound basis they don't seem all that impressive to me. I think most of them just evolved the size and weaponry that was enough to prey on all the marine reptiles smaller than themselves and that was it. Most of them don't really look like they're well suited to prey on something similar in body mass to themselves (unless they damaged the fins or something), which isn't surprising since there really wasn't anything else in their time and place as big as them. So I agree with you. I wonder if the most robust snouted forms like Temnodontosaurus eurycephalus are exceptions, though. So what were larger ones like Shonisaurus or Ichthyotitan hunting? |
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Post by Infinity Blade on May 30, 2024 7:05:55 GMT 5
I think most of them just evolved the size and weaponry that was enough to prey on all the marine reptiles smaller than themselves and that was it. Most of them don't really look like they're well suited to prey on something similar in body mass to themselves (unless they damaged the fins or something), which isn't surprising since there really wasn't anything else in their time and place as big as them. So I agree with you. I wonder if the most robust snouted forms like Temnodontosaurus eurycephalus are exceptions, though. So what were larger ones like Shonisaurus or Ichthyotitan hunting? I mean, probably anything they wanted, which meant literally everything in their environment that wasn't too small of a meal for them. On account of the fact that almost certainly nothing in their environment equaled them in size (and so there was no need to develop a set of jaws specialized for killing animals as large as or larger than themselves). They would have been the biggest fish (by far) in a very, very, very big pond, so to speak. |
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Post by Exalt on May 30, 2024 8:21:47 GMT 5
I think for some reason, I got the impression that macropredatory ichthyosaurs were being more rejected earlier than they actually appeared to be, and I don't get the impression that they have the tools to bulk feed like baleen whales or the largest modern sharks, so I would think they would want decently-sized prey.
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Post by razor45dino on May 30, 2024 17:33:48 GMT 5
would machairodonts be more or less formidable than pantherines
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Post by Supercommunist on May 30, 2024 20:08:19 GMT 5
would machairodonts be more or less formidable than pantherines I think they would be better at killing similar sized carnivores or restraining larger prey on average, but I think modern big cats would be better at pulling off outlier kills since machairodonts would have had relatively fragile fangs and a lot of them would had reduced jumping capabilties. |
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