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Post by theropod on Dec 14, 2013 16:20:35 GMT 5
I wasn't saying that, merely that such a built is pretty good if you want to make it difficult to get bitten. On the ribs, let me again quote what I already quoted; Some medium-sized bones (e.g. vertebrae and ribs) could be bitten through or at least have parts removed relatively easily (e.g. neural arches) by large theropods. Even those genera that do not appear to be well adapted to biting on bone could probably have broken a neural spine that was only a few millimetres thick. If you look at rib shafts in theropods, you can see they are not particularly strong, owing to the combination of being thin, hollow and long (that's also the reason they get deformed in fossilisation so often). Even the most robust, found in taxa like Tyrannosaurus or Giganotosaurus, are probably not strong enough to withstand another large theropod's bite to the flank. They will either be fractured by the shear resulting from impact or bite force, or they will be sawn by the subsequent pulling action. Of course that applies even more if we are talking about smaller animals, eg. Carcharodontosaurus biting an Ouranosaurus or Allosaurus biting a Camptosaurus. The ribs probably wouldn't provide sufficient protection for the internal organs, ie. in the end there'll be a big gaping hole in the prey's body. Stegosaurus would be more difficult to target, even here I wouldn't presume the ribcage offers total protection, but it is arguably a much less inviting target.
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Dec 14, 2013 23:32:17 GMT 5
I see. I did not realize how "weak" the ribs were in various dinosaurs until now. I knew that they were hollow in a lot of species, just not necessarily weak.
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Post by theropod on Dec 14, 2013 23:37:31 GMT 5
"Weak" of course relative to the power (even in a slicer) and cutting potency the huge skulls of those theropods packed, not in absolute terms.
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Dec 14, 2013 23:47:34 GMT 5
Definitely. I put it in quotes so that it would not sound literal
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Post by Carcharodon on Dec 17, 2013 4:06:26 GMT 5
Allosaurus wins imo. It could just rush in and axe-bite the stegosaurus on the head before getting speared.
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Dec 17, 2013 4:17:22 GMT 5
Allosaurus wins imo. It could just rush in and axe-bite the stegosaurus on the head before getting speared. Once again, a head bite would do minimal damage. The neck or flanks would be much more vulnerable to such a theropod in this case (don't get me wrong, stegosaurus obviously had a very vulnerable head as evidences by its very slender and gracile shape, but allosaurus was not structured the same way as tyrannosaurus for crushing).
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Post by theropod on Jan 12, 2014 19:40:30 GMT 5
^A head bite may not puncture the skull, but would likely cause damage by virtue of not just scraping off the soft tissues and likely sliding into the neck, but also very simply by means of blunt trauma (the impact and/or pulling), causing a condylar disarticulation or at least a concussion. I would not consider any of these minimal damage, since even if only a single one of these held true it would likely lead to the herbivores immediate (severed neck, incapacity of defense due to trauma or blood loss) or eventual (severed facial arteries, nerves, jaw muscles?infection, hindrance to foraging, blood traces...).
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Jan 12, 2014 23:01:24 GMT 5
Concussion or trauma is possible. Although allosaurus would likely not go for the head anyway in favor of the flanks, neck, or back.
Allosaurus simply was not designed for causing any sort of skeletal damage, which is why any damage done to it would likely be due to tissue and flesh-related damage surrounding it or just accidental trauma.
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Post by dinokid202 on Jan 22, 2014 4:11:23 GMT 5
allosaurus wins. it could easily bite stegos head if it avoided the tail. then it would be all over and ending with stegosaurus having a crushed skull!
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Post by Runic on Jan 23, 2014 5:16:42 GMT 5
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Post by jhg on Jul 14, 2016 18:04:25 GMT 5
Allosaurus takes this; it eats Stegosaurus.
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Post by jhg on Aug 21, 2016 9:04:27 GMT 5
Allosaurus wins.
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Post by An Goldish Jade on Jul 2, 2017 10:11:40 GMT 5
the Allosaurus whould grip on the stegosaurus with its claws, then use its teeth to tear the stegosaurus fleah, causing it to bleed to death, at simliar sizes the Allosaurus might suffer a few wounds, but whould win most of the time
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 1:23:45 GMT 5
Stego will always position itself in the most defensive position, I don't see how the Allo can get near.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 6, 2019 18:08:06 GMT 5
Stegosaurus wins, it's got the needed turning speed and power behind its thagomizer.
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