Derdadort
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Post by Derdadort on Oct 8, 2013 16:55:30 GMT 5
I don't see your problem. Why is your list less chauvinistic then? It says that some quite big taxa like therapsids and dinosaurs are generally more intelligent than others. It's just a larger scale. At this scale, no single species or genus is glorified. As in, you won't see a single one above all the others in the large-scale list. I think I know what you mean, but in my opinion your list seems to be even more chauvinistic than a ranking on species level, because it says that some big taxa are generally smarter/"better" than other big taxa. However on species level you can say that e.g. the cephalopod X is smarter than mammal Y even if the most mammals are more intelligent than cephalopods. Or let's look on the indiviual level: The cat Fluffy is smarter than the dog Charlie,... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 19:25:26 GMT 5
At this scale, no single species or genus is glorified. As in, you won't see a single one above all the others in the large-scale list. I think I know what you mean, but in my opinion your list seems to be even more chauvinistic than a ranking on species level, because it says that some big taxa are generally smarter/"better" than other big taxa. However on species level you can say that e.g. the cephalopod X is smarter than mammal Y even if the most mammals are more intelligent than cephalopods. Or let's look on the indiviual level: The cat Fluffy is smarter than the dog Charlie,... This is on average. |
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Post by theropod on Oct 8, 2013 22:05:46 GMT 5
Yes but it holds basically the same problems. This is one of the point people always use in their "inferior reptiles"-beliefs, remember?
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Post by creature386 on Oct 8, 2013 22:11:50 GMT 5
Plus, most of the intelligence levels are unknown, so it is hard to determine averages.
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Post by theropod on Oct 8, 2013 22:55:43 GMT 5
True, the majority of animals are unstudied (and even studying them does not guarantee perfect understanding of an animal's cognitive ability), so such averages are very unrigorous observations at best. I can admit this is somewhat necessary when talking about such a complicated field tough.
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gigadino96
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Post by gigadino96 on Oct 9, 2013 1:41:01 GMT 5
Ah ok. Thanks. Look at the comments of that page. Some guys think that cats are the most useless and stupid animals ever, and some others that dogs are dumb and idiots because they take commands from someone. These statements are just stupid. |
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Post by creature386 on Oct 9, 2013 2:01:51 GMT 5
Things like that are common in the internet, when two animals get compared.
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Post by Runic on Oct 9, 2013 3:27:47 GMT 5
Ah ok. Thanks. Look at the comments of that page. Some guys think that cats are the most useless and stupid animals ever, and some others that dogs are dumb and idiots because they take commands from someone. These statements are just stupid. Yea cats are far from stupid. Then again it's the internet. Morons are everywhere  |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Mar 18, 2014 5:59:02 GMT 5
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Post by Honey Badger on Mar 18, 2014 6:13:20 GMT 5
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Post by mechafire on Mar 19, 2014 11:37:35 GMT 5
I don't know about all animals but here are te top 10 smartest primates
1. Human (Homo)
2. Orangutan (Pongo)
3. Chimpanzee (Pan)
4. Spider Monkey (Ateles)
5. Gorilla (Gorilla)
6. Langur (Presbytis)
7. Macaque (Macaca)
8. Mandrill (Mandrillus)
9. Geunon (Cercopithecus)
10. Mangabey (Cercocebus)
Dolphins are probably second place.
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Post by Vodmeister on Apr 2, 2014 11:37:33 GMT 5
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Post by Vodmeister on May 22, 2014 12:32:51 GMT 5
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Post by creature386 on May 22, 2014 18:51:45 GMT 5
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Post by spinosaurus1 on May 22, 2014 21:12:06 GMT 5
i honestly never cease to be impressed by corvids. their tool making skills and dexterity as well as problem solving skills are able to put even most primates to shame
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